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Rob Spiegel
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Re: Navigating the complex world of regulations
Rob Spiegel   7/5/2011 4:16:40 PM
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You have a good point in suggesting that not everyone is complying. I'm not sure who is and who isn't, but I know there have been complaints about a lack of enforcement.

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sensor pro   7/5/2011 4:07:12 PM
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You are correct. I hope it's worth it. I know that we are spending extra on making ROHS boards, solder rework stations, training, equipment calibration for different temperatures, etc...  What concerns me the most that we are complying, but I'm not sure that firms in China, India, etc.. are as honest as we are.

The track record is not there.

I also look at many regulations as a pragmatist. Some requlations are just to keep the imports more expensive and help local guys or collect higher duty.

Nevertheless this regulation should be consistant.

Rob Spiegel
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Re: Navigating the complex world of regulations
Rob Spiegel   7/5/2011 3:56:13 PM
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It's quite a challenge. Products are global. For many companies with electronics in their products, they have to make sure they are compliant with all RoHS laws: EU, China, Korea, now India. Their products could end up in any of these countries. It will get more demanding with the EU's RoHS Recast which will take affect in 18 months. Now RoHS will cover even products that are not primarily electrical or electronic. That includes toys, like teddy bears that talk. Those products used to be exempt because they were primarily teddy bears. No longer.

sensor pro
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Re: Navigating the complex world of regulations
sensor pro   7/5/2011 3:22:11 PM
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More madness in the industry. The ROHS directives resemble the Health Law. Too many pages, difficult to understand and then many items do not need to comply.

India, from all countries !!!

Not enough that we need to spend three hours on shipping paperwork to send $100.00 of parts, now we will need to do all that new stuff.

Good luck to us all doing business with India.

Rob Spiegel
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Re: Navigating the complex world of regulations
Rob Spiegel   7/5/2011 10:26:27 AM
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There have been some attempts to create a national law in the United States. They haven't been successful. Much of the electroncis industry has been asking for a comprehensive law. Others take the view of letting different states do different approaches as experimentation and incubation, with the notion that one apporach will come to make the most sense.

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Re: Navigating the complex world of regulations
plasticmaster   7/5/2011 10:15:58 AM
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A very interesting point you raise Rob. We have INDEPENDANT e-waste laws and nothing nationally. I'm not aware of the independant countries in the EU having separate e-waste laws. And since the EU RoHS is pretty much the standard, most all companies that do business worldwide simply require their products to be RoHS compliant.

I did find a website that identifies each US state and what e-waste laws they have in place as of 2010: http://www.electronicstakeback.com/wp-content/uploads/States_Summary_2010

Douglas Smock
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Douglas Smock   7/5/2011 10:09:20 AM
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Let's hope India does a better job of enforcing its electronic waste standards than Europe has done.

Beth Stackpole
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Beth Stackpole   7/5/2011 10:05:20 AM
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Sounds like the typical tangled web of standards. Not fun to navigate!

Rob Spiegel
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Rob Spiegel   7/5/2011 9:52:44 AM
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That would be too easy, Beth. No, there isn't any concerted effort to create an international standard. Companies typically aim for the one that is the most strict and hope they're covered for all of them. The EU RoHS is pretty much the standard, but not entirely.

The United State is particularly problematic. We have independent e-waste laws in more than half our states. The industry would like one uniform law for the United States, but so far, that doesn't look likely. So it's a patchwork.

Beth Stackpole
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Navigating the complex world of regulations
Beth Stackpole   7/5/2011 8:49:16 AM
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Seems like it was only a matter of time before India as well as other countries pass some form of e-waste and hazardous materials regulations, and the landscape is likely to get even more complex given the variances--slight or otherwise. Is there any movement to promoting more of a global standard, which might make it easier for manufacturers to comply?



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