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Top Cars From 2012 New York International Auto Show
4/9/2012

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Honda's Indy Grand Prix car. This chassis first raced in 2006 and won the Toronto Indy in 2009.
Honda's Indy Grand Prix car. This chassis first raced in 2006 and won the Toronto Indy in 2009.

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Larry S.
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Re: Electronic Content
Larry S.   5/1/2012 9:16:12 AM
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I agree - will today's cars be around 40 or 50 years from now like our 'beloved' classics from the fifties and sixties?

 

Scott Orlosky
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Scott Orlosky   4/29/2012 11:20:17 PM
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I feel like an old fogey with this comment; but it seems that the electronics revolution translates into a chance for the repair shops to charge whatever they feel like for repairs.  Two real stories both involving my wife's cars - one had a faulty sensor that required replacement of the entire engine (I kid you not - fortunately it was under warranty) and recently a thermostat replacement cost $700 - not under warranty.  Now granted, newer cars are much more sophisticated and fuel effecient than the cars of 30 years ago - but sometimes it would be nice to know that if your car dies you can clean up the sparkplugs with a wire brush and gap the points with a piece of cardboard and get it running again.

warren@fourward.com
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Gran Prix
warren@fourward.com   4/15/2012 8:56:07 AM
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The Grand Prix isn't much of a family car.  No place to put your luggage, the mileage stinks, the shock absorbers are lousy, the CD player is non-existant, and it is a magnet for the police!  They need to go back to the drawing board...


JimT@Future-Product-Innovations
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Electronics were once "the new guy"
JimT@Future-Product-Innovations   4/11/2012 1:10:47 PM
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At the dawn of this new millennium, (circa Y2K) when advance development teams were brainstorming radical new concepts of integrating GPS, BT, MP3 via USB, WiFi, Large-color LCD-screens, and other "radically new ideas" into the automotive sector, electronics engineers were somewhat chastised by automotive engineers for crowding into their space. After all, the V8 and the automatic transmissions were established mechanical wonders with over half a century of implemented use.  "Surely this new electronic stuff is just a passing fad --- its kinda cool, but really, who would want all that electronic gizmo stuff – it only distracts from the driving experience".

Thank goodness the automotive sector DID adapt, since their legacy is often  backward looking.

Charles Murray
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Charles Murray   4/10/2012 7:51:05 PM
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The latest figure I've seen shows that electronics are approaching 40% of the cost of the car.

Alexander Wolfe
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Re: road tests?
Alexander Wolfe   4/10/2012 11:19:40 AM
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Driving, no. Sitting in lots of them, yes. Getting into a Smart car and closing the door is an experience. Not exactly a heavy thud. Sensors were definitely on the agenda there, in that they're not visible but if you go to the automaker people, they will talk about them.  Anyway, the electronics evolution is well along on the automotive platform.

Karen Lightman
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road tests?
Karen Lightman   4/10/2012 11:05:46 AM
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hey Alex - did you get to roadtest any of those babies? they are all gorgeous and fun to drive as well - but are they safe? However, one thing is for sure: I am sure there are a lot of "MEMS inside" those machines.... Karen

John
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Where's the rest of the US automakers?
John   4/10/2012 9:43:27 AM
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I enjoyed the slideshow.  It was nice to see what is coming down the pipeline.  But where are the other US automakers.  Half of those were old cars and don't get me wrong I love seeing old cars.  Too bad no brass era cars in there or a speedsteer with an airplane engine in it.  Those are even more neat to see.  :)  I realize the show name has international in it, but Ford seems to have been present.  Hey, have any more pics of Honda's NASCAR engine?  Is it tuned port or direct injection?  Looks like it's a dual overhead cam engine and a direct inject, but never can see any really up close pics of one of the engines.

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naperlou   4/10/2012 8:48:33 AM
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Actually, Alex, that about covers it.  The car will cost 1 and 1/3 what you pay for it at the dealer.  Just think of it as the "new" math.

Alexander Wolfe
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Alexander Wolfe   4/10/2012 8:22:06 AM
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Naperlou: Add 1/3 for repair costs and you've got yourself an equation. Doesn't work mathematically but kinda makes sense, at least for some brands.

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