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Tina Jeffrey
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Re: Wrong camera choice?
Tina Jeffrey   2/8/2012 10:59:24 AM
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btwolfe - Just to clarify, the SmartVue development camera module uses OV7962 a wide dynamic range VGA sensor (not 7690).  The CV2201 Image Cognition Processor in the camera (the brains so to speak) is sensor-agnostic and can interface to a number of different sensors including megapixel.

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Re: Wrong camera choice?
btwolfe   2/8/2012 12:25:48 PM
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Tina - The only difference I see between the 7962 and the 7690 is the MIPI interface and support for 50/60Hz illumination compensation. Regardless, I think they would have gotten more milage from a better imager. Perhaps a future rev of the cube design? Incidentally, I only noticed this because I'm working on a similar compact imager concept, except that my system does passive stereo processing to generate depth information. Of course, it wouldn't be the same small form factor, but the all-in-one concept is the same. It's good to see products like this come to market.

Charles Murray
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Re: Automotive applications
Charles Murray   2/8/2012 8:12:36 PM
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The blind spot detection video is interesting, Tina, in that it incorporates the processing inside the camera module. Where was it previously?

Tina Jeffrey
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Tina Jeffrey   2/8/2012 9:40:41 PM
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Charles, my understanding is that existing systems do the processing inside or near the camera as well. These systems are however still larger than a CogniVue-based BSD solution.

Ann R. Thryft
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Ann R. Thryft   2/9/2012 1:47:03 PM
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Tina, thanks for all the input on the SmartVue camera, especially from the app development perspective. My experience accords with Jon's, that in vision system engineers are interested less and less in coding and more and more in faster, easier app development.


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Alexander Wolfe   2/11/2012 1:33:21 PM
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Spot on, Chuck. I also see potential applications in perimeter protection and in airport and city center security. Most of use know about London's 10,000 cameras (or whatever the specific number is), which monitor activity to keep an eye on crime and terrorist threats. For perimeter and airports, the TSA stuff we see isn't where the cutting-edge research activity is. Here's a piece I did a couple of years ago about some interesting IBM stuff. (Who knew IBM was into perimeter and airport protection?)

Craig
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Re: Automotive applications
Craig   2/15/2012 4:40:17 PM
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From someone in the automotive camera business, yes, this is 'old hat'.  One inch square was the old standard.  The new form factor that we are designing to is a 18-20mm sided cube.  The automotive smart cameras tend to have a module with the imager on it, video goes parallel out of the imager chip into a DSP on the next board of the camera.  Usually, it is located very near the camera to avoid signaling issues.  In the case of a front view smart camera, the lens peek out of the windshield above the rear view mirror.  The DSP is on on a circuit board directly above it.  I think most car cameras, rear view or forward view (usually a smart type), are based on 1/3" imagers.  Now we are moving on to 1/4, 1/5" and smaller.  This is where the German car camera market is at currently.

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William K.   2/15/2012 11:28:02 PM
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The difference in requirements between cameras for automotive applications and macine vision, for inspection or gaging, are large.  Watching for a car in a blind spot, keeping an eye on the lane edge marker, or checking the position of the right-side passenger are much easier than inspecting a part for proper threads or correct dimensions. Also, dtermining part orientation is a demanding application as well. My point being that the two applications are very different and as a result, comparisons between them, (the two different types), are of marginal value. 

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Ann R. Thryft   2/16/2012 1:02:37 PM
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Craig, thanks for the info. A question: were all the specs you discussed from the German car market? If so, were they for high end cars or for more mainstream vehicles?


Craig
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Craig   2/16/2012 1:49:45 PM
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Hi Ann,

These cameras are and will be for the hi end market, Audi, BMW etc.  One of the basic differences that I see between machine vision and automotive is that, with the forward looking smart cameras, the requirements are the camera be spacially accurate.  With machine vision, the camera must be accurate enough to do the job in 2D.  With hi end automotive vision applications heading towards being able to do dynamic collision avoidance (moving car vs. moving object), the modern camera must work with scene recognition, the 3D brother of 2D pattern recognition.  So one camera, using multiple frames of video will generate a moving 3D 'map' of the scene ahead, two cameras are not required, which simplifies the calibration and hardward required.  Scene recognition for automotive aplications is a new frontier, obviously the robot industry has been working on it awhile.  The autonomous vech. competition was very interesting.  Next the car will have to figure out if the object is okay to run over or, apply the brakes determining that the car behind has time to brake as well!  ;^)  And that joke alludes to the newest systems for autos that allow a top or adjustable 360 degree view of the car on the dash display.

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