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naperlou
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great new phone, too bad it's hard to fix
naperlou   8/1/2014 1:07:29 PM
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The new Amazon Fire has a lot of great new features.  I expect we will see many of them in future generations of competing phones.  On the other hand, putting this much stuff in a phone is difficult.  That seems to lead to a phone that is hard to repair. 

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Re: great new phone, too bad it's hard to fix
far911   8/2/2014 10:25:00 AM
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It certainly looks interesting and with so many features I consider if it doesn't slow down the processing it will give tough time to its competitors.

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Mydesign   8/4/2014 5:03:36 AM
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"2.2 GHz quad-core Snapdragon 800 CPU, with 450 MHz Adreno 330 GPU"

Far911, No doubt. GPU can also render more performance especially when it comes for video streaming and display.

far911
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Re: great new phone, too bad it's hard to fix
far911   8/4/2014 6:08:18 AM
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Ok .. I didn't know that live streaming will be enhanced by it.

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Re: great new phone, too bad it's hard to fix
Cabe Atwell   8/6/2014 6:27:51 PM
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With phone unlocking the norm... can this be used on other networks now?

far911
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Re: great new phone, too bad it's hard to fix
far911   8/7/2014 5:56:44 AM
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I guess it should.

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Mydesign   8/7/2014 11:29:08 PM
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"With phone unlocking the norm... can this be used on other networks now?"

Cabe, that's a drawback with most of the service providers. They used to lock the device with their services. But in Asian countries there won't be such issues. Here customers can by any devices and can avail the service by inserting service providers SIM.

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far911   8/8/2014 1:59:45 AM
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Ya this true here in our country even lots of phones from different networks n countries are unlocked and being used easily.so I m sure this one will also.

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Mydesign   8/11/2014 3:06:07 AM
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"Ya this true here in our country even lots of phones from different networks n countries are unlocked and being used easily. so I m sure this one will also.

Far911, thanks for the clarification. Now a day's unlocking the phone is so common with service provider contract mobiles.

far911
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far911   8/11/2014 6:30:59 AM
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This unlocking will lead 2 loss to the mobile companies. As they give phones on a package and outsider usually carry them to other countries n get them unlocked n sell them n claim theft insurance.

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Mydesign   8/13/2014 12:20:50 AM
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"This unlocking will lead 2 loss to the mobile companies. As they give phones on a package and outsider usually carry them to other countries n get them unlocked n sell them n claim theft insurance."

Far911, some peoples may get misuse, its common everywhere and helpless situations.

far911
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far911   8/13/2014 12:35:08 AM
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In this context I say the software manufacturer should prepare softwares which are not easy 2 break.

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Mydesign   8/20/2014 3:23:18 AM
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"In this context I say the software manufacturer should prepare softwares which are not easy 2 break."

Far911, difficult situation.

far911
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far911   8/20/2014 3:27:33 AM
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I don't think so. Although it is difficult but not impossible. All they have 2 do is to hire top software professionals which can upgrade the version every day.

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Mydesign   8/25/2014 12:08:48 AM
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"I don't think so. Although it is difficult but not impossible. All they have 2 do is to hire top software professionals which can upgrade the version every day"

Far911, nothing is impossible but when it comes to business ROI is important

far911
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far911   8/25/2014 1:58:57 AM
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Mate ROI is important for business, but to my belief these must have hired permanent software developer and they have to be competent enough to fulfill company s requirement

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Mydesign   8/27/2014 11:22:54 PM
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"Mate ROI is important for business, but to my belief these must have hired permanent software developer and they have to be competent enough to fulfill company s requirement"

Far911, adding more permanent employees are again adding extra expenses.

far911
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far911   8/27/2014 11:26:24 PM
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I doubt that these top companies are getting the job done on adhoc basis.

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fdos   8/27/2014 11:48:50 PM
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@far911: Why do you feel like that ? Any specific reason behind that ? 

far911
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far911   8/28/2014 12:08:39 AM
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These companies are big enough to afford top engineers and provide safety to the consumers.

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a2   8/28/2014 1:15:46 AM
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@far911: Yes true plus they can even merge with some other smaller scaled company for this operation itself if they feel they do not have the confidence to go ahead

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a.saji   8/28/2014 6:07:18 AM
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@far911: Well maybe but are they willing to do it is the key. Also will they have sufficient returns by investing huge on it too will be considered  

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far911   8/28/2014 7:16:28 AM
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As far as the margins are concerned, I consider the inflated price companies quote comes down tremendously when a new version is introduced. Indicating the profit margin.

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Mydesign   9/1/2014 1:18:05 AM
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"Well maybe but are they willing to do it is the key. Also will they have sufficient returns by investing huge on it too will be considered  "

Saji, private equity investors are very much concerned about their retune on investments. So without any assured ROI, nobody going to continue with such investments.

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Mydesign   8/28/2014 1:40:17 AM
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"I doubt that these top companies are getting the job done on adhoc basis"

Far911, then there can be some savings.

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a.saji   8/28/2014 6:02:28 AM
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@Mydesign: Well there should be some but must be in foreign banks

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Mydesign   9/1/2014 1:13:45 AM
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"Well there should be some but must be in foreign banks"

Saji, outsourcing means savings to the companies, so obliviously it may outsource to other countries where work quality is at par and manpower cost is less.

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a2   8/28/2014 1:23:31 AM
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@far911: Exactly. If you are hiring permanent SE's you should get the best available for you. Anyway +1 for hiring and making permanent SEs 

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Mydesign   8/7/2014 11:26:22 PM
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"Ok .. I didn't know that live streaming will be enhanced by it."

Far911, sorry.

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Mydesign   8/4/2014 5:01:13 AM
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"The new Amazon Fire has a lot of great new features.  I expect we will see many of them in future generations of competing phones.  On the other hand, putting this much stuff in a phone is difficult.  That seems to lead to a phone that is hard to repair. "

Naperlou, No doubt that its good in terms of specification. Which OS its running?

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