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'Variable Swirl' Sparks Diesel's American Return

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rpl3000
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rpl3000   8/15/2013 8:14:30 AM
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I think that buyers of "premium diesel" cars will look elsewhere. In the mean time I'm still looking for a replacement for my '02 tdi golf......

Where is my 'cheap diesel'?

Cadman-LT
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Re: Premium Diesel
Cadman-LT   8/15/2013 8:59:18 AM
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gotta love deisel is all I can say.

Cadman-LT
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Cadman-LT   8/15/2013 9:02:30 AM
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in fact I HATE deisel...but if it does good then ok

Cadman-LT
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Cadman-LT   8/15/2013 9:05:16 AM
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I take that back. I think they have made some decent desiels. Fast ones at that! 

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Re: Premium Diesel
naperlou   8/15/2013 9:45:43 AM
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Many of the diesels in Europe have great performance.  When I took my driver's test in England I had an examiner who was a real gear head (I had been briefed on the two examiners).  So, I got him talking about hot cars.  I didn't have to do half of what is usually required.  One of the cars he liked was a turbo diesel.  He had driven it in Germany on the Autobahn.  They really are much cleaner that diesels of old.

rpl3000
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rpl3000   8/15/2013 10:33:28 AM
I was just recenlty in Germany and I drove 4 turbo diesel rentals. Hyundai I30, Ford Focus, Merc A-class, and a Ford C-max. They were all pretty awesome. Tons of torque, no turbo lag and they all went 200kph on the autobahn. I have the feeling that the small cars over here are 10 years behind the European offerings. Especially in the wagon and hatch models.

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a.saji   8/16/2013 4:10:01 AM
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@Cadmen: Yes they have done some good work recently. Yes it is unfair if you say no as an overall result on them.   

GTOlover
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fuel costs in US
GTOlover   8/16/2013 9:03:16 AM
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So I pull-up to the pump and see diesel is $3.90 a gallon and gasoline is $3.40 a gallon I am pretty sure I am buying gasoline. A diesel that can get 46 mpg is good, but why not buy a gasoline hybrid?

Then we have the whole late 80's early 90's diesel nightmare tarnishing US consumers view of diesel automobiles. I am not sure that the US is ready. They will sell OK as a small share of the diesel car market, but I do not forsee the Cruz overtaking the gasoline version. The diesel costs a little over $25k and the ECO (at 42 mpg) is a little over $21k. May not seem like much, but most consumers will not calculate the difference and go for the cheaper car that uses cheaper fuel.

Kevin CHRIK4771
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Diesel performance
Kevin CHRIK4771   8/16/2013 10:06:36 AM
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I have been saying it for years, ever since they made the announcement back in 2008ish, when GM was I designing a smaller diesel engine for the medium duty trucks. I think it would have taken of then. People want power, and fuel economy, the diesel power plant brings the best of both worlds.

kodaiflow
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kodaiflow   8/16/2013 10:35:02 AM
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Eventually they will mix the two and break the 100mpg mark.  When you add in Hybrid drive and CVT you take out the problem areas of the rpm T curve and the efficiency goes through the roof.  Diesel idles at near zero fuel consumption so you don't have to keep starting and stoping the engine like a gas engine. 





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