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Ingestible Sensor Serves as Prescription Drug Monitor

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gsmith120   9/19/2012 11:46:48 AM
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I was also thinking many of the people who may most need this may not have a smart phone.  Are there plans on expanding the devices that can receive this information?

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Re: Privacy Concerns-?
Ivan Kirkpatrick   8/30/2012 4:00:57 PM
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Not to be inflammatory but I think it was Scott McNealy of the former Sun Microsystems that said, "there is no privacy, get over it".

There are many cameras in public places that can see people's faces, with facial recognition they are effectively tracking you.  As does your smartphone.

Iris scanners can identify people from 30 feet with.  

The grocery store knows what you buy for dinner.  The fueling stations know how much fuel you use adn the GPs in your car helps track where you have been.

What exactly is left for privacy?

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Re: Privacy Concerns-?
ErrantMule   8/22/2012 1:25:21 PM
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Your Pollyanna viewpoint is precisely what I am lampooning.

 

So, if the FDA mandates the technology has to go into every pill, how long do you think it will be before the police insist they need the ability to access the information?  Do you want a screener at the airport asking you why you're taking a particular medication, with a couple of business associates listening in?  Where does it stop?  Have you ever read 'The Patriot Act'?

 

It's fine to look for the good in people.  The jaw-dropping leap to assuming all people are good surprises me, particularly in a forum where understanding of the subject matter requires a solid background in logic.

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Re: Ingestible Sensor
Tool_maker   8/22/2012 12:52:59 PM
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@bobjengr: Your thoughts on this are similar to my own. When my mother-in-law was still alive, we made regular trips to fill her pillbox. There would rarely be a time that she took all of her medication and then she would argue how she had. "I ran my finger around there and it was empty." She could never explain how the pills got back in the box, but that did not change her assertions that she had taken them all. On second thought, she would have just claimed the sensor was in error and it would add nothing.

My solution is to make one of the pills a water pill. Trust me, you know when you have taken that devil and I do not need an external device to alert me.

Is there a cost involved here?

JimT@Future-Product-Innovations
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Re: Privacy Concerns-?
JimT@Future-Product-Innovations   8/22/2012 12:50:15 PM
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Your objections are precisely the point I'm lampooning ... being that people often swing to the extreme Fear of Big Brother (your Orwell reference). For me, I view it as just another technology advancement, and I'm not intimidated by any theoretical ramifications. Guess I'm just naïve that way. I do tend to look for the "Good" in people.

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Re: Ingestible Sensor
Shadetree Engineer   8/22/2012 1:31:50 AM
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A pillbox that takes full advantage of this new tech, would not need to be 'loaded' in the prescription schedule like you have become used to, but can instead be bulk loaded.  It would receive the data stream and automatically subtract from the daily schedule. Then display which pills are to be taken next. Or maybe even just have only one lever to release pills and the box decides which ones to drop next with an alarm for when to do so.

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Re: Security Concern?
Shadetree Engineer   8/22/2012 1:20:23 AM
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The article does not say that the signal is bio-electrochemical.  The power source for the so called 'sensor' is bio-chemical. The article does not explain how the data gets transmitted, but I would assume the simplest approach is to use an RF transmission. In that case, how do you prevent a very high gain antenna from intercepting the signal?  But, seeing as the article doesn't say that RF is used, maybe they did something more interesting like transmit with static conduction to the patch. The patch itself could be built cheaply, to just retransmit the data as is, but the patch could also be using some form of encryption. The hacker scene has demonstrated years ago how to intercept bluetooth connections to pull funny pranks on people who think they are still talking to someone on their phone. No major credit card scams I know of yet have come of it. The police use a man-in-the-middle attack that everyone knows about yet still haven't quite figured out well. Just setup a false 'cell tower' near your target. The target device will automatically switch to the stronger signal which is the core fundamental reason why all cell phones work so flawlessly. No matter who made the phone or what model it is, it will always connect to the strongest signal. Then you retransmit that to the real cell tower, so that the target never has a clue. You get all the data. Voice, text, everything except root access to the phone. So this doesnt necessarily enable remotely turning on the phone's microphone while leaving the phone 'off'. But it certainly can allow randomely monitoring a crown for any telltale datastream for this new kind of pill. Unless of course, you were to take security very seriously. In which case there will not be any 'telltale' datastream!

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Re: Privacy Concerns-?
Shadetree Engineer   8/22/2012 1:03:16 AM
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I always keep thinking, whenever I hear that same meme: 'I have nothing to hide because I never do anything' - what about this instead: 'You have nothing to hide but your privacy'. Combined with the fact that anyone can be found guilty of anything simply by taking anything they say out of context in just the right way. Or simply just taking the fact that they made a statement, to imply that they said something they didn't mean.

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Shadetree Engineer   8/22/2012 12:51:37 AM
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This will not work well for monitoring trafficking because the pill as described here only functions when consumed. Unless everyone is required to wear a patch at all times in order to catch the signal when the wrong person takes a pill.  You can attempt to monitor for unused pills by attempting to interpolate ghost data, but there will always be plenty of legitimate reasons for why pills go unused. Lost, uneeded, misplaced, ect. So what kind of resources will be needed to run down every false alarm? Plus to even think of using this as a trafficking monitor, will require every manufacturer of a given kind of medication to use this sensor. Of course that would be great business for this company developing it! But the sudden increase in costs will be problematic at best. A much better way to monitor drug trafficking is to use a type of signal that works at all times even while still in the original prescription container, which can not be easily removed from the drug itself. Something that is designed around an active scanner which can be deployed by anyone in the field to scan at random for any out of place signal.

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