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Boeing Plans Second International Flight Using Biofuel

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Rob Spiegel
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Rob Spiegel   9/27/2012 10:06:01 PM
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James, do you know what is keeping the biofuel mix high? Is it a matter of volume, or is it a matter the process and the materials being more costly?

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JamesCAnder   9/27/2012 4:18:58 PM
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It is time to push past the 50/50 biofuel blend. (Dynamic Fuels biokerosene)

Or perhaps just a price reduction. As it turns out, the bio-fuels used in the airline tests are far more expensive than standard jet fuel. As KLM Royal Dutch Airline, the sector leader of the Dow Jones Sustainability Index, stated, "[to meet true sustainability, the price has to] come down substantially and permanently."

Also, more efficient planes should be on the list "to do."

JCA

Rob Spiegel
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Rob Spiegel   6/25/2012 2:27:16 PM
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Good points, Robatnorcross. This may be a publicity stunt, but it still underscores the posibility of alternative fuels. 

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robatnorcross   6/22/2012 7:48:45 PM
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I used to work for a guy (MUCH smarter than me) who would look at something I was working on and say "if this was an airplane would you fly on it?". We were not making aircraft but I always got the message. It made me think things through much more thoroughly.

This seems to be more of a publicity stunt more than anything. Seems to me that they should be testing this fuel on an engine test stand somewhere rather than flying a billion? dollar aircraft around so they can take pictures.

Or may be it's just me...

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Rob Spiegel   6/22/2012 3:00:53 PM
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You're right TJ. For years, the only folks using biofuel were Neil Young and Willie Nelson for the touring busses. That seems to be changing.

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Re: Biofuels also moving into shipping
Ann R. Thryft   6/22/2012 12:10:27 PM
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Rob, Liz is the one who's been writing on biofuels in aircraft. I've written about them in shipping (and in Europe, not here): in that case, they're to be blended for use in existing engines. Liz, do you know the answer?

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More cooking oil needed
TJ McDermott   6/22/2012 12:37:13 AM
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If/when this biofuel becomes popular, more used cooking oil will be needed.

We need to eat more french fries!

Rob Spiegel
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Rob Spiegel   6/21/2012 4:48:34 PM
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Ann, are the biofuels being used on new jets that are designed to accept biofuels? Or, can these fuels be used in existing fleets?

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Biofuels also moving into shipping
Ann R. Thryft   6/21/2012 2:16:43 PM
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We also reported on biofuels in shipping in March

http://www.designnews.com/document.asp?doc_id=241005

At least in Europe, they're already being used in ground transportation, and are about to become more common in air transportation there, too.

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Greg M. Jung   6/21/2012 8:19:25 AM
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Great to see renewable resources being developed for airline fuel.  As this develops further, one interesting trend to watch will be the price of corn and other grains as the demand between food and fuel grows. 

I do like the line about local shrubs being used, so hopefully more useable land can be created using this strategy.

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