When we first published our story on electric-vehicle drag racing in 2009, the excitement in that tight little world was growing. In the intervening two years, John "Plasma Boy" Wayland and his White Zombie Datsun have cracked the 11-second quarter-mile plateau, with a record time of 10.258 seconds and a speed of 123.79mph.
Wayland says his Zombie can go 100 miles on a charge. "We have the same range as a Nissan Leaf, but we have acceleration that's better than the Bugatti Veyron," he said, referring to the vehicle known as the fastest road-legal car in the world.
He attributes the faster times and longer range to a new lithium manganese cobalt polymer pouch battery from Dow Kokam. He also has boosted the size of the White Zombie's electric motors from 772lb-ft of torque in 2009 to 1,250 today.
"We are still the world's quickest-accelerating street-legal electric car," Wayland says. "And we plan to run a nine-second quarter-mile."
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Roderick Wilde's cars are so powerful, they've done wheel stands. They've snapped axles. And, in drag races, they've "blown the doors off" 450-HP Dodge Vipers.
"If we went much faster, we would've made those Vipers look like they weren't moving," brags Wilde, a long-time racing enthusiast. "Those drivers might as well have thrown open their doors and walked."
If Wilde were just another speed-obsessed gear-head, his exploits might be little more than local legend. But Wilde isn't just another speed-obsessed racer. He's a speed-obsessed electric racer. And in the world of drag racing, as well as in the greater automotive universe, that makes his achievements special.
To be sure, Wilde's newsworthy exploits aren't unique. The National Electric Drag Racing Association (NEDRA) now counts about 100 members who've raced in Oregon, Michigan, Arizona, Florida, Washington D.C., and even England. Among them, there's much fashionably muscular talk of blowing doors off, putting hammers down, sucking amps, and slamming electrical current into motors. The racers' have cars with names like Maniac Mazda, Crazyhorse Pinto and White Zombie. But amidst all the loud, zealous banter, there's also speed. Lots of it.
"You get these guys who are driving their gasoline-powered Corvettes, Mustangs, and Audis, and they're losing on the drag strip to electric cars," says Mike Willmon, an engineer who also serves as the president of NEDRA. "It's opening up some eyes."
Indeed, heads are turning. A racer named John "Plasma Boy" Wayland, designer of the White Zombie, has pushed his street-legal electric Datsun to an extraordinary 11.4-second quarter-mile. Willmon, meanwhile, has covered a quarter-mile in 12.4 seconds in his electric 1978 "Crazyhorse" Pinto. And Bill Dubé, founder of the so-called KillaCycle team, owns an electric motorcycle that covers a quarter-mile in a stunning 7.82 seconds, reaching speeds of 168 mph.
What's more, the engineering behind the vehicles is impressive, not only in terms of power development, but in the way the owners have created technologies on shoestring budgets. Thanks to the efforts of the electric racing community, there's now a motor controller capable of parsing out huge voltages and currents to the vehicles' drive motors. There's also a battery controller that enables them to charge their huge battery packs without damaging them.
Racers say that such new technologies are enabling them to do amazing things. "Rod raced against a GM EV1 awhile back and beat it with his backyard-built Mazda," says Wayland of his one-time competitor, Roderick
Wilde. "The guys from GM were shocked. Here they had a million-dollar prototype with AC drives, and along comes this long-haired guy from Washington who blows their doors off."
Back in 1968 we were working on the design of an electric dragster that would have a separate motor driving each of the four wheels. We had a source of motors that could deliver about 400HP "for a short time". We also had the battery problem solved, as our plaan was to have two copper strips, one on each side of the track, and use two large pickups. This would satisfy the track operators that the vehicle would lose power if it left the track. The power would have been from a large diesel powered generator parked well behind the pits area. the 4800 volts would drive the four motors in series, 1200 volts each, and around 200 amps. This car would probably have set many new records for any quater-mile car. The project ended when we determined that it was well beyond our financial capabilities. Also, some of the group got drafted. But it certainly would haave been quite a show to run it.
I'm not in the drag racing part but have known them, moslyt online EV groups and some in person, mostly on the EVDL EV discussion list which has more EV experts and people who actually build, drive more EVs than anywhere else for over 20 yrs and help others who are trying to build good EV's. To Find more info on EV drag racing and EV links, just google EV Racing and follow the links.
As for me I design and build lightweight EV's with 2 to 4 wheels, composites, boats, wind/tidal generators . I do it because it's the only way to get reasonable priced EV's that are very cost effective. For instance I drive a Harley size 700lb EV MC trike with 60 mile range and lead batteries.
Now done in composites such a unit seating 2 with an aero cabin with an 80 mph top speed could easily be built for under $10k. Such a vehicle would cost about $.01/mile for electric US average and battery costs. Such a vehicle would pay for itself just in gas savings over 5 yrs. And done with the right looks, ad campaign could be very cool.
Another future EV will be an aero cabin composite body 2wh MC that will go 100 mph for 150-200 miles. These and other lightweight, aerodynamic EV's only need 25% of the battery pack, EV drive thus far cheaper to build. Likely in just 2-3 yrs they will cost less to build than ICE versions.
I've long studied the battery cost issue and there is no reason lithium batteries OEM sould cost over $200kwhr in 2 yrs. Why is you can buy cells now for under $250/kwhr in 3 amp sizes like Tesla, Toyota. Mostly this is because huge numbers of battery manufacturers and chemical/suppliers fighting for a fairly small market with only 100,000EV's or less next yr and those are sewn up but a few players. My bet is GM, Nissan are getting Battery Packs with BMS for about $450/kwhr, mostly because of low production. As they get experience, automate more and material prices drop to about $125/kwhr, packed prices should be under $250kwhr.
So to conclude, EV's need to be built as low drag thus aero and lightweight so good performance can be had from smaller, less costly EV drives, batteries is the future in EV's. And they will be, as my EV's are, very cost effective.
The Zombie effortlessly posted three nearly identicla 10.2 @ 123 mph 1/4 mile passes - this, with self imposed restrictions on max motor volts and max motor rpm, both of which were hit on all three runs - hence the same ETs and trap speeds. Those limits are now raised, and, a taller 3:25 gear set is going in over the out-going 3:50 ratio. With 1250 ft. lbs. on tap, going 'taller' in gear ratio doesn't seem to hurt the car's incredible 1.33 60 ft., and though we may slow that part down to say, 1.55, the top end will be much more aggressive. We expect the Zombie to be soildy in the 9s in three weeks when we return to the track to find out.
I seldom take myself 100% seriously - life is too short. But I do have this 'anal thing' about publicly published data. I think that the disorder comes from years of dealing with 'requirements issues', 'he said', 'she said', 'that is not what I meant', etc.
I expect to be held accountable for anything that I 'say' publicly.
Ed, are you this charming, misleading, and obstinate at home and work when you are wrong?? Or do you reserve it for use only online??
The first post that I saw challenged a nonexistent quote about 'faster'.
The second post has a phrase "car nuts ALWAYS look at quarter mile times, not just the 0-60 times" that clearly "justifies" 0-60 as a "valid" measurement. [I would, however, challenge the use of the word 'ALWAYS'.]
1. We agree that the WZ out accelerates the Veyron 0-60.
2. The exact original quote was "we have acceleration that's better than the Bugatti Veyron".
3. The original purpose of the quote was likely to make the simple point "This used car that has cost a few $K is powered by batteries through electric motors can out accelerate the Veyron that cost $M."
4. No matter how you slice it "The WZ can out accelerate the Veyron".
5. Yes, if you put the 1/4 distance constraint on the rate of change measurement, you can honestly say that you have successfully created a scenario in which the $2,400,000 car can out accelerate the home built, used Datsun. But even then, #4 will still be true - "The WZ can out accelerate the Veyron".
The article talks about drag racing (normally a quarter-mile affair) and quotes only a quarter-mile time. And car nuts ALWAYS look at quarter mile times, not just the 0-60 times. Does the Zombie out-accelerate the Veyron in the quarter mile?
In terms of 'acceleration', for street legal cars, it's 0-60 mph that's the comparison point. The Veyron does 0-60 in 2.4 seconds .... the Zombie does it in 1.8 seconds. My quote was "out-accelerates the Veyron" - never said the Zombie was 'faster' ... you made that part up . The Zombie does indeed. out-accelerate the Veyron in the 0-60 contest.
Not to diminish Mr. Wayland's accomplishments with the the White Zombie, but being "street legal" is a lot different from "daily driver". All "street legal" means is that it has lights, a horn and windshield wipers. Last time I saw it, it had only a driver's racing bucket seat and very little else for an interior. It's a one of a kind, purpose-built machine to test and refine high performance electric drivelines, controllers and batteries, not so much for practical transportation
...............The car has never, ever been without both front seats.. you're posting incorrect information. Datsun 1200s did not come with carpeting - yet the Zombie has full carpets, front and rear. It 'is' in fact, a daily driver, and recently traveled hundreds of miles on trips from Portland to Seattle. It is not 'stripped', other than the back seat no longer fits due to the NHRA required roll bar system. It does not run on slicks, rather, it uses DOT street legal tires. It gets driven to and from the race track where ti soundly spanks many gutted, hollow-shell muscle cars that do have only a driver's seat and have to be trailered to the track.
Thanks for the intel, Jerry. Are you an enthusiast or are you actively involved in any of these electric drag racing efforts?
I have to agree with a number of points made by mellowfellow, including his point about how the original automotive industry evolved along the lines of what's happening currently in the EV world. I also think there's merit to the idea that even though EVs are still not cost effective, it isn't necessarily a turn off for everyone. As mellowfellow notes, many people don't make buying designs about cars or phones or whatever simply based on the numbers, but rather let emotional factors drive decision making. So, if someone really wants (and can afford) an EV, they're going to go for it even if the technology is far from perfected.
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