Update: Chinese Knock-offs
In a recent blog post, Chinese Knock-offs Move Beyond Gucci Bags, I described how some high-end Italian machinery makers are seeing copies of their equipment pop up in China. They’re fighting back through technical innovation, lower-cost manufacturing, service, and quality.
But it made me wonder what sort of legal recourse they have, if any?
I asked Thomas Babel, an attorney specializing in litigation and intellectual property with the law firm Ward and Smith P.A. He says that it is difficult to prove that an innovation was stolen by a Chinese company.
“In China, it’s fairly easy for an interloper to file for and be granted a patent on an innovation, even if it is patented elsewhere,” says Babel. He learned first-hand how the Chinese patent system works while employed at a U.S. consumer products company. The problems began when the company started working with new suppliers in China after ending a long-term relationship with a Taiwanese supplier.
“The Taiwanese supplier was obviously upset and went and filed lawsuits in China against our new suppliers, contending that it owned the intellectual property related to our products being manufactured,” he says. “Unbeknownst to us, the Taiwanese supplier had periodically filed patents for our products in China under its own name during the duration of our relationship.”
The supplier was able to do that, Babel explains, because China, unlike the U.S., has a first-to-file system, which means that the first company to file for a utility or design patent on an innovation will be granted the patent. In addition, the Chinese State Intellectual Property Office does not conduct an investigation into a party’s patent claims, like the USPTO does here in the U.S. . “The Chinese company can then use that patent to prevent others, including the original inventor, from producing products in China that incorporate that innovation,” he says.
Babel believes that the limited pre-issuance investigation conducted by the Chinese SIPO gives an unfair advantage to copiers, since once the patent is issued, the burden of proof is on the rightful owner to prove that it actually is the rightful owner of the innovation. Compounding the problem is the Chinese court system, which does not follow the western rules of evidence, often allowing only original documents as evidence.
Babel’s company hired counsel in China and countersued. “Being a lawyer, I believed that we had ample evidence to show our designs had been stolen,” he says. “I was told that despite the fact that the evidence we had supporting our position would be sufficient to prove a case in the U.S., that evidence would not be sufficient for a case in China. And that’s pretty much what happened.” Despite the difficulties in China, the company ultimately was able to reach a beneficial resolution of the dispute by filing a breach of contract suit against the Taiwanese supplier–here in the U.S.
Whether companies should do a preemptive strike and file for patents in China themselves even if they don’t currently do business there (as was the case with one of the Italian companies), attorney Babel says companies should do a risk assessment, weighing the costs versus the benefits. He is also a big proponent of contracts when doing business with suppliers in China, an area of the law he says the courts in China recognize.
steve in Ohio commented:
Face it, Chinese national policy is to ripoff IP holders and anyone else. I worked for a company that was to give training classes in China - they were contacted hours before departure insisting thay would only pay about 60% of the agreed-to fee. That's not a legit business practice anywhere. Why do business with cheats ?
louie finkle commented:
It is true about the unfavorable IP position in China but if your product idea has enough value then a preemtive approach is insurance if you ever do plan to market in China,it is not fair but it the reality and is better than nothing.
American in RI commented:
Stop manufacturing in ASIA, put American worker to work, your product will reach its customers and not be ripped off, by foreign companies or countries!
Peter in Canada commented:
I used to work for a Computer manufacturer. We had a partner in Taiwan who helped design a low cost version of one of our handhelds. We finished the design and started manufacturing the devices (in China). The Manufacturer Layed off a bunch of their designers (who had worked on our product) at around Christmas time. By Chinese New Year, about 2 months later, a new product had hit the market in China and Asia. Our Marketing team looked at it and notice that the logo was very similar to ours and the product had almost the same shape just the colour was different. When we opened it up we noticed that the PCA's and all the mounting holes were IDENTICAL to our product. Turns out that this New company had hired all of the fired engineers and those engineers had copies ALL of the design files for our product.... you just can't be too careful when working in Asia.
Paul Glasgow commented:
I found this article enlightening. I am unable to copy this meaningful article, in order to share its content with clients who contract to have products which I design, manufactured in China. Can you please send me a copy which I may reproduce, for this informative (sharing) purpose? Thank you!!!! Paul J. Glasgow, P.E. Glasgow Products, Inc. 150 East hawthorne Ave. Valley Stream N.Y. 11580 (516)561-8890 Fax
(516)561-8891 pglasgow@optonline.net
VIBGYOR commented:
Why you knowingly enter into thief's den and lamant, as all items are stolen from the original owners and Chinese are known for this art.
Mike in Texas commented:
Since the largest market in the world is the USA, file for a patent in the US, manufacture in the US or China, and if someone else tries to import your US patented items made in China, stop them at the border with your US patent. Forget about trying to protect your invention in China, the deck is stacked against a US citizen, but definitely protect it in the USA.
mike commented:
Are you talking Taiwan China, or Mainland China, or a mix of Both ?
George in VA commented:
Contracts are perceived as only a starting point in China, subject to ongoing negotiation as the working relationship proceeds. I recommend filing proactively for patent protection in China before entering into a contract relationship. This locks down the ownership of the intellectual property beforehand.
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