I Feel an EMF Headache Coming On!

It strikes me odd that with all of the science clearly suggesting serious harm from Electromagnetic Fields and Radiofrequency radiation, that people here would be so dismissive.
It doesn't take much effort to see that there is quite a lot of very solid work showing both biological and health effects at limits far below the so-called "safety" limits.
Please don't just repeat what you heard some industry lobbyist say.
At least do your homework. There is way more to this issue than ridicule and sarcasm.
What would it take to look at some of the latest research?
Start here!
www.powerwatch.org.uk/science/studies.asp
www.powerlinefacts.com/EMF.htm

Ok enough of the area 51 stuff that will argued until we stop using radio and go on to the next form of what ever is next. The real danger of EMF is the garbage that it brings into our lives through the radio and TV in my opinion. Has anyone seen the stuff on the tube these days? Come on...the family guy? Kids texting stuff to each other that would shock a salty sailor into fainting. In maybe one hundred years we can look back at the data still coming in and say for sure. Until then turn off the TV and if you should feel the need make the metal hat.

Don't need special jewelry to block EMF just wrap the top of your head with aluminum foil. It also stops THEM from reading your thoughts. I have this on good authority from the bum on the street corner.

OK I think everyone would be well served to look at this webpage as it has the device to save mankind form all this EMF stuff along with many other issues.
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Larry

Go to any Hamfest or Broadcast Engineers Society meeting and you will notice many people in their 60s and 70s. They look healthy, and still have their marbles. 30 years ago I burned my hand on a coax center conductor. So far it hasn't fallen off at the wrist, no '6th finger' either.

Alex:
I see that U are a genuine product of our marvelous educational system (and U have the writing skills to prove it). We teach the scientific method as a 'scientific fact,' along with all the other immutable 'facts,' but fail to teach anybody to use it. Why is anybody surprised when the untaught masses fall for bogus crap? It's not their fault, and I think I'm going to cry now.

I wish we could teach basic science in this country. "EMI" may be prevalent, but at levels far below other phenomena which are naturally present (UV was mentioned). The earth has a roughly static magnetic field thousands of times stronger than any fields to which the public is exposed. And every time your heart pumps you are experiencing a dynamic magnetic field (iron in the blood in motion in a magnetic field). Pardon the shorthand, but the Luddites are still with us after hundreds of years. Until someone can prove that non-ionizing radiation actually can have any kind of chemical effect (such as breaking bonds in long-chain molecules), this is just nonsense.

The biggest threat of EMI seems to be to the honey bee. When the honey bee is gone, the rest of us won't be far behind. Think about it, where will we be without any fruits or vegetables ?

I've always wondered...why the FCC safe limits for microwave oven leakage is 5mw, whereas cell phones are "safe" at 500mw held directly to our skulls for hours on end? Both are essentially (close enough) the same frequency. How does one quantify cumulative effects here?

I'm moving into a shield chamber.

This is just more evidence of the general public's ignorance of science and technology. If I had a dollar for every person that ask me what I think about running their car on water, I would not have to work anymore!

So where is the real science in this argument? In particular, has anybody measured the RF E-field strength near their residence or place of employment? How about the E-field strength adjacent to a cell phone?
Moreover, there has been much discussion during the last twenty years regarding acceptable (safe) limits. It seems that the bottom line influences the limits. I can't help but wonder how much damage has been done just to sustain a multi-billion dollar industry.

Funny, a lot of people in the US die every year from hazards such as electrocution, arc flash, and carbon monoxide generated by their backup generators. Where's my darn headlines?
As for EMI hazards, the remark is that EMI has some definite and proven biological effects -- birds sense the earths field for navigation over water, broken bones care about electric fields when knitting, and nerves can be fooled by electricity at the right frequencies.
However, it is likely far more productive to ask if there are chemical effects of the electricity -- for instance, a slightly elevated level of ozone near high voltage transmission lines. Of course, this is increasingly difficult to separate from other chemical noises, especially given the pervasive use of plastics and the pervasive lead solder in older electronics.
Another potentially interesting line of investigation would be to look for immune effects -- which might be measurable -- however, there's this crazy property of many poisons that small amounts actually act as stimulants, a phenomenon known as hormesis.

I have never seen a topic about which so many people claim to know so much about what amounts to nothing. Amazing, isn't it?
From the Radio Disease Killer of the 1920-30's through power line fields through VDT fields through cellphones, no real scientist or junk scientist has every demonstrated and legitimately replicated a mechanism whereby all the claims of cures and ills allegedly caused by exposure to electromagnetic energy were and are proven to be true. What has been scientifically and independently replicated is that nothing happens at the levels of electromagnetic energy we all encounter in daily living. One exception is ultraviolet electromagnetic energy from the sun and tanning booths that causes sunburn upon over exposure! Every time you get a sunburn, you are scientifically and and independently replicating the mechanism responsible for that, and not just demonstrating some pipe dream "causal connection" fictitious effect.
For continued skeptics, people who believe that less is worse, more is worse, and the government person who once admonished me by saying "Why would you want to stop any of this? It is a guaranteed job for life!", you need but consult the Federal Laws. Since the 1930's through the present, all US broadcast stations, AM, FM, TV, etc. have been and still are required to lay down a MINIMUM electromagnetic energy level so that you, the public, are assured of getting the broadcast programming you want in every living room within range of the broadcast antenna. That is a good thing, but, with generations of Americans so generously lathered with 24/7 broadcast electromagnetic energy required by law, look there for your proof of harmful effects of electromagnetic energy. Don't forget that the cellular telephone frequencies used to be occupied by megawatt UHF TV stations, so you have really been given a break with pipsqueek power cellphone technology.
The issue with cellphones, as I see it, is that people want technology, but do not now want what goes with it to get it. If it is out of sight, it has got to be OK! People now bury cable, telephone, and power lines to make their property look more aesthetic, like picturesque castles on the Rhine River. The invisible toxic gasses, particulates, contaminated ground water, etc., from all the rest of technology gets less headline space than this "EMF" junk science of cellphone towers and cellphone use. This is all the same for the wifi frenzy, except that it is at microwave oven frequencies. You better throw out your microwave ovens and those of your neighbors if you are a true wifi fearmonger.
Just remember, "jobs for life" for practitioners of junk science and a life of stress for their believers and followers.
PS: Broadcast reception records from the 1920's show that people on the East coast, in the Boston area, could receive radio stations in the Los Angeles area in California from time to time. Not anymore! The noise floor has since skyrocketed. Maybe this is the next fertile ground for junk science!

Several years ago a group of parents in my neighbourhood started lobbying against the phone company erecting a GSM Transmitter antenna mast near their children’s school as they feared the radiation would harm their children and demanding the transmitter antenna be moved to a distant site. I tried to explain when they canvassed me for support that because the received power at any point falls according to the inverse square law that this would actually put their children more at risk, because the GSM protocol allows an increase the transmit power of the handset as the base station transmitter is farther away, which would ensure that the handset antenna, which is probably less than 1 cm from the brain would cause more energy to be absorbed by the child’s brain than the transmitter antenna at 10 Metres high and probably 100 metres away.
Their answer was that they had acquired a Field Strength meter and had made readings. When I enquired as to who would interpret the readings and decide what it was they were actually measuring they had no real answer, probably because there were no electronic engineers in the lobby group.
My last words were to suggest that they might rename their group Mast-Abate. I did receive later a communication from a gentleman who thought I would collaborate wit him in selling magnetic bracelets with magic power to cure all ills and increase the gas mileage of my car.

I agree that the health concerns are over rated. As an amateur radio operator for 50 years, I am more concerned with the RF pollution from all the gadgets that the FCC has allowed to be created. I used to be able to hear all sorts of signals, but any more, the background is so high, the radios are turned off most of the time.

I get terrible Back EMF aches after I stop pushing my electric mower.

alex lacks the attention to detail to be taken seriously. as far as EMI goes, our high school electronics ham radio antenna had a number of dead birds hanging from it at any given time because they were zapped while roosting when someone keyed the transmitter.

Obviously it's time to put on a foil hat.
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The trouble is the hysteria will never go away because there will always be some loons who will never believe the science. My father's next door neighbor was convinced that his lawn service was poisoning her water well when they fertilized his grass. He got an opinion from an agricultural researcher at an Ivy League university that properly applied lawn fertilizer only penetrated a few inches into the soil before it was taken up by the grass roots. That failed to convince the neighbor who hadn't ever bothered to test her well and he wound up canceling the lawn service to appease her rather than put up with a potential lawsuit.

I guess I need to get the concession rights for tin foil hats. BTW, what galaxy is "regulatic" in, and why should I care what their authorities care about?

As long as the people with bluetooth headsets glued to their ears or contantly on their cell phones don't start dropping dead, I'm not going to worry too much

Alex,
While you have a right to be concerned I think most people here will take their advice from engineers with 30 years experience in the field and enough education to spell and punctuate properly. I know I will be, because I've only been an engineer for 20 years and I'm still learning.

sooner or later the EMI will be one of the largest problem, since the regulatic authorities do no care to much about it now, but once after a big system brake down everybody be surprised how did we get so fare