Fueling the Tanker Wars: Boeing challenges EADS
Can you say “FRENCH FUSELAGE” without a queasy feeling? Wasn’t it Boeing’s fuselages over Normandy that saved the French from the Nazi’s? What have the French done for us lately?
Now that I have your attention, let’s talk about the Air Force’s choice of Airbus parent EADS to build $35 billion in military refueling tankers. At a gut level, I hate the idea of my tax dollars being used for this. But EADS and its partner Northrup Grumman say 60% of their tanker, the KC-30 based on the Airbus A330 airframe (KC-45 in Air Force parlance), will be built here and will support directly and indirectly support 48,000 new jobs in 49 states, up from it’s original 25,000 job estimate. Of the craft’s major subsystems, the wings will be built in England and the fuselage in France. The GE engines and final assembly will be covered here.
The finger-pointing and flag-waving has begun because it’s un-American to use tax payers dollars to fund an American defense run by the French, right? One Washington state congressman said it was the “worst thing in his life.”
Make no mistake about it. This is NAFTA, Part II. But before you wrap yourself in the flag, look at the facts. Boeing does business all around the world and there is no question on the commercial side, it earns its keep by building great passenger jetliners and freighters. Despite delivery delays, the 800 or so orders for the Boeing 787 is proof of that. But Boeing also builds military aircraft and sells them to just about every foreign ally we have. It even provides tankers for the military in Italy and Japan. Citing irregularities, Boeing is protesting the award with the Government Accounting Office.
As for the quality of the two bids, Air Force officials were slated to defend their choice in Congress today (the capitol building was evacuated today by a private plane violating Washington air space). But its press release just out today saying it had received the Boeing protest mentions nothing about testifying before Congress. The Air Force claims the decision represents the best deal for American taxpayers and war fighters. One insider says the EADS-Northrup bid is bulletproof and that the Air Force was extremely thorough in its selection, which it claims was evaluated by independent sources.
Losing the tanker contract is a blow to Boeing’s prestige, bottom line and highly skilled work force. In November, Boeing has said the contract would have supported 44,000 new and existing jobs and 300 American suppliers. But the EADS bid means jobs, too.
There, now. You can say “French fuselage.” Can’t you?
Chili Ramirez commented:
An additional note on the ten of billions of dollars in subsidies EADS receives from European governments...the US Trade Representative has determined that these subsidies violate the Subsidies Agreement of the WTO, and has sued in the WTO to end the practice. These illegal subsidies include more than 5 billion dollars devoted to the A330 airframe.
John Dodge commented:
Opppsss,
Tell the whole story. Aviation comes from the the Latin "avis" for bird. Similarly, fuselage comes from the latin "fusellus" or "fusus." The French built on that. I know. I checked my 20 lb. dictionary.
John Dodge commented:
Pops,
I have to believe the USAF did due diligence on this hot potato. But your point about Airbus being subsidized is a very good one.
John Dodge commented:
Oppsss,
I see the thorazine is not working-:)
John Dodge commented:
Dale,
I wonder why the 787 has not been considered for the basic tanker model.
Dennis Pemberton commented:
Does anybody remember the name written on the engine of the P-51? Rolls Royce. KC-135s are flying now with French SNECMA engines. The AV-8 Harrier was the product of a European consortium. The T-45 Goshawk trainer is a British design. Etc., etc.
As a purely practical matter, unless the Frogs are going to hide secret GPS transmitters on the tankers, there's no technology transfers, military secrets, etc. at stake here. They're building an airframe. The refueling boom uses a standard socket device. This doesn't mean we're giving away the blueprints to Aurora, or whatever the next-gen spyplane is.
Just my two francs.
Dale Elliott, Lt Col USAF (Ret) commented:
It's a chess game.
We buy the low-tech Airbus tanker (an older passenger plane), and
then we expect as a quid-pro-quo that Germany, others will buy the high-tech F-35 to replace the Toronado.
Pops in Vienna commented:
I am an Amrican ex-pat working in Europe. First of all, Airbus is heavily subsidized by EU governments. The playing field isn't level to begin with. France wouldn't let us fly over their country when we bombed Libya. Austria wouldn't let trains containing US military supplies for Iraq pass through their country. These people are NOT our friends. We CAN NOT rely on them when we need to use military force. Why did the Pentagon change the bid specs at the last minute? Why were the congressional hearings cut off so briefly. Where's the transparency with Defense Dept. bidding? Smells like a big case of corruption to me. Oh, and one more thing...with the Dollar -Euro ratio this is the last thing we need, more dollars going overseas. If the ports deal was evil, why is this good?
Oppss commented:
as the word "Aviation" avion, and many aerospace words, i'm really sad to learn you about things you trys to use to bash at foreugn ppl,
and nevah forget, the french won more victories at military and alone in history than lots of old dynasties, specialists even noot mention the US in thier stats!
Clement Ader's creations will get more atention on this part of the ocean, now
haha
Opppsss commented:
The word Fuselage is french,
seems that arsole as you can't figure out, as entrepreneur word is french, as 60% of the word you are using!
not only fries are french!
before the WWII the french planes manufacturers was world leaders, and when it comes about WWII, try to explain with the USA didn't started it as reel liberator in 1939 rather than in 1942!
what if the GI had landed in belgium?
hahaha, my grnd grand pah died on the plains of yorktown lil pricky arseole, i 've never bashed any americans, even when they was arseole morrons!
get a life
SMSgt Mac commented:
How about before we discuss the KC-45, let us accurately describe the winning team.
It is lead by NORTHROP Grumman, as in the founder's names: Jack Northrop and Leroy Grumman. EADS North America is the major associate contractor.
Otherwise, this was a pretty even-handed piece even with the somewhat 'jaunty' tone
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