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Boeing's Woes Shouldn't Be an Indictment of Electric Cars
2/4/2013

Boeing's batteries overheated and burned (left) onboard a 787 (right), but that shouldn't be an indictment of lithium-ion chemistries.  (Source: NTSB, left; Boeing, right)
Boeing's batteries overheated and burned (left) onboard a 787 (right), but that shouldn't be an indictment of lithium-ion chemistries.
(Source: NTSB, left; Boeing, right)

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herbissimus
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Re: Arm chair quarterbacks... ?
herbissimus   2/7/2013 10:41:38 AM
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"Old US Air force definition of an airplane:

A group of compromises , flying in close formation."



what a beautiful quote!!

i'm sure this will come to me as i'm high above the water, crossing the atlantic or pacific, courtesy of an airline and aircraft company on my way to another great travel experience. and the thought will also arise that this quote as much as any i've heard characterises the whole industrial system.

Charles Murray
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Re: Boeing's Woes and electric cars?
Charles Murray   2/7/2013 7:36:26 PM
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Good point, William K. Fears about outsourced aircraft maintenance get talked about a lot (Michael Crichton wrote a book about it called "Airframe" many years ago). But for some reason, there's little talk about the effects of outsourced engineering.

William K.
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Re: Boeing's Woes and electric cars?
William K.   2/7/2013 9:50:43 PM
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Charles, One of my bosses years ago had a policy of never admitting to making a mistake on record. Verbally he would acknowledge errors and failures, but never in any form that left a detectable record. So that is one way of never getting nailed for ones errors. I think that is how it works with outsourced engineering, which is that accounting points at how much money they saved and how the incompoetent in-house engineers just messed things up. And very few are ever willing to admit to a failure, because it is bad for one's career.

Charles Murray
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Re: Boeing's Woes and electric cars?
Charles Murray   2/8/2013 6:13:57 PM
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Must be nice, William K. The accountant comes up with the idea to outsource the engineering and gets a pat on the back for saving the company money. If the outsourced engineers mess up, though, no one blames the accountant. What a great deal.

William K.
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Re: Boeing's Woes and electric cars?
William K.   2/8/2013 9:36:20 PM
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Charles, you are exactly right! And sometimes the failures are some seriously bad news. Been there, the company died.

Ceylon0
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Logic not crisis
Ceylon0   2/13/2013 3:19:12 PM
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The problem here isn't with Boeing having to fix their mistake or electric cars. The problem here is with a media who reports this nonsense. The media seems to think it cannot survive without moving from crisis to crisis and manufacturing a few along the way. These so-called journalists need some basic training in logic. Oh wait, that's why they are journalists. They couldn't handle the math!

sensor pro
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sensor pro   2/17/2013 8:43:01 PM
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WOW, you right on. They can not live without crisis. This also adds preasure for immediate solution, when it really has to be done methodically without errors.

Cabe Atwell
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Re: Logic not crisis
Cabe Atwell   3/1/2013 6:59:57 PM
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All is well. A permanent fix is on the way for these batteries. Only a brief incident. Electric cars are safe!

C

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