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Slideshow: EV Makers Look to New Battery Chargers

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Charles Murray
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Re: Its just never going to work quite like they're trying to imply
Charles Murray   9/3/2014 7:38:53 PM
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Good point, JimT. The depiction may be lacking in reality. I've also heard concerns about allowing everyday consumers to recharge their cars at 480V fast-charge stations. People are unpredictable and can inadvertently find creative ways to take something that's inherently safe, and make it unsafe.

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JimT@Future-Product-Innovations   8/31/2014 11:11:46 PM
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Also, on this attempt to set the cultural expectations for quick mobile recharging, these corporate images show devices that appear to resemble conventional gas pumps. 

First, I missed any mention of the amount you might "Pay at the Pump".  How much can one expect to pay when sucking on 240V for 30-60 minutes-?  I missed the pricing discussion.

Second, I think of a real-life scenario that exists commonly today; the cell phone and laptop recharging stations at the airports.  People are not quickly re-charging and continuing on their way; instead they are sitting and waiting (& waiting & waiting), but the experience is still 100% free of charge.

Accordingly, I think this entire thought-process of this "currently accepted conventional wisdom" is pretty far-off from what is really going to happen.

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Its just never going to work quite like they're trying to imply
JimT@Future-Product-Innovations   8/31/2014 10:58:41 PM
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Several of the slides showed images of vehicles recharging a t "Re-Charge-Stations" presumably attempting to establish this paradigm similar to today's conventional gas station. Cars drive up, recharge and drive away.  Particularly, Slides #1 and #2, both depict this. The Pretty girl, smiling for the camera, while show holds her charging cable.  She might just as well be standing next to a floor-lamp, reading a book, and holding the electric lamp cord. I think its ridiculous to paint the picture like this, trying to train the culture to expect the same type of 10-minute quick-stop as todays refueling expectations.

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Re: EV makers and battery chargers
patb2009   8/28/2014 7:59:59 PM
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Charles


BTW  news reports say the 2016 Nissan Leaf will be targeted to 186 Mile range at $30K.

 

Should be enough mileage for you.

 

h ttp://wot .motortrend.c om/1408_report_nex t_nissan_leaf_to_double_ev_driving_range .html

patb2009
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patb2009   8/28/2014 1:25:44 AM
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"57 miles per day, on average"

which means you just need more routine access to a Fast Charger.

 

or you should look at a BMW i3  

 

ht tp://www. caranddriver .com/bmw/i3

 

70-100 mile electric range,  CCS fast charger and a gasoline engine with an extra 2 hours driving range.

 

You remind me of the guys when the first 8088 PCs were coming out were explaining why they needed more disk or they needed more Core.  It was happening.

BTW, why have you ruled out a chevy volt?

 

 

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NEW BATTERY CHARGERS
bobjengr   8/27/2014 5:01:04 PM
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Charles, I love the idea Evatran and Hevo have for wireless chargers.  This is real thinking on their part. Another interesting fact, the electric car manufacturers have spawned entire industries contributing to use of their vehicles.  I think this is marvelous.  I'm not too sure we will ever outlive internal combustion engines but I do feel there will come a time when the number of electric cars and hybrids will equal and possibly eclipse traditional engines.  The cost will lessen as time goes by and manufactures work out details that now seem very cumbersome. Excellent post. 

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Charles Murray   8/27/2014 4:44:24 PM
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For me, a.saji, it's more costly to have to buy an extra car for short trips. If I were to do that, though, I would buy a second-hand junker, not a new EV.

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Charles Murray   8/27/2014 4:42:17 PM
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Nope, still doesn't work for me, patb2009. Here's my situation: I have a 10.3-year-old car and it will click over 214,000 miles this weekend. That comes to about 20,776 miles per year, or about 57 miles per day, on average. Far too many days would exceed the 80-mile EPA range of the Nissan Leaf. I'd be renting cars multiple times per month, which would be much too expensive, even considering the operational savings of electric power. By the way, your civil tone is much appreciated. Civility is important for this web site.

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a.saji   8/27/2014 12:31:31 AM
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@Murray: But isn't that a bit more costly ?

patb2009
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patb2009   8/26/2014 8:53:24 PM
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Charles

 

you aren't thinking about it right.

 

What you spend on a car isn't the purchase price, but the Total Cost of Ownership.

 

For High End cars, the EV's are already the same price,

 

Give it a few years and the same thing will happen in the mid range.

 

Give it a few more years and Gas will be extinct.

 

 

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