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Slideshow: Pickups Roll at Chicago Auto Show

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naperlou
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lot of off-road
naperlou   2/20/2014 1:02:48 PM
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Chuck, I am interested in the off-road emphasis.  Do you see a lot more of this going on?  I get out into the country and most people there going off-road use older vehicles.  The idea of banging around off-road in a new vehicle seems a little crazy to me.  Of course, these are mostly farmers, and they are generally very practical.

The Maserati is really nice.  Actually, we just got a new Maserati dealer here in Naperville.  I guess that means we are moving up in the world. 

Charles Murray
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Charles Murray   2/20/2014 3:59:42 PM
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I don't think there's a growing emphasis on off-road, naperlou. The Chicago Auto Show has always been the show where new trucks are introduced, presumably because the Midwest (outside Chicago) is less urban. Years ago, I even talked to auto companies that went out of their way to hire Midwestern graduates -- kids from Illinois, Wisconsin, Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, etc -- to design and engineer their pickup trucks.  

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far911   2/20/2014 11:13:18 PM
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Ya u are rite banging off road on new and expensive vehicle is not wise , but still all the show is instigating to buy them  and elope.

far911
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far911   2/20/2014 11:13:33 PM
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Ya u are rite banging off road on new and expensive vehicle is not wise , but still all the show is instigating to buy them  and elope.

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Pickups for non-business use
j-allen   2/21/2014 8:34:46 AM
Many pickups seem to be driven for purposes where a compact car would serve just as well.  If the drivers' goal is simply to waste gas, why not drive a little car and punch a leak in the fuel tank to accomplish the same waste?  Or skip the leak and just burn the saved money.  

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Turbineman   2/21/2014 11:00:51 AM
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You make a good cultural point.  Trucks aren't purpose-driven vehicles anymore.  I think this trend started in the early 1970's when "powder puff" trucks began to appear.  Before that, trucks were the cheapest vehicles on the dealers' lots and you could clean out the cab with a garden hose.

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asicdesignengineer   2/21/2014 2:17:03 PM
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I agree for the most part, however you do have to give kudos to truck Mfg's for trying to be more fuel efficient. Sure why own a truck when a more efficient car would suffice, however I feel this line of thinking gives Mfg's an 'out' for actually trying to develop an efficient truck. On the other hand I also despise those touting supposedly "efficient" cars that get less than 40MPG.

But if there was a small truck that got 40+ mpg why not opt for something like that which might me more versatile to some, so I do think one has to give credit where credit is due, but then again most people only interested in trucks is because they look "manly". But I especially liked the small Nissan diesel; the Kia Niro hybrid had some impressive ground clearance if your into the outdoors. However its unlikely that either will see the light of day. Think 2 years ago Toyota had a prius "truck", and Jeep had a diesel electric hybrid wrangler – both with impressive MPG for the time but sadly neither went anywhere.


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asicdesignengineer   2/21/2014 2:31:21 PM
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What I find interesting on the off-road angle is that they are all huge trucks, which if you really did alot of off-roading you would find them problematic as far as the long wheelbase and wide body is concerned. I'm sure they have limited approach and departure angles, and not as well suited as short-wheelbase vehicles in tight turning situations, such as tight wooded trails.
As far as the farm angle is concerned, don't really see how that fits in to the whole off-road category, any wide bed truck is suitable for farming, and certainly not necessary to be all 'rigged-out' like these trucks. Think this is more of playing into 'macho' psyche.

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Charles Murray   2/21/2014 3:28:15 PM
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You're right, turbineman. Over the years, trucks somehow became a "feel-good buy," rather than a matter of utility, for some consumers. Some buyers wanted to sit up high and feel big. I know many contractors and trades people who own and need trucks, so I'm not talking about them. But there's a growing contingent of people who drive shiny, tricked out trucks that just don't look like they serve a real practical purpose. Obviously, it's their perogative, but I just don't understand it.

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Charles Murray   2/21/2014 3:30:47 PM
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You're right, naperlou. The Maserati is cool. This year, there were a number of new cars at the Chicago show and the Detroit show that really emphasized horsepower. Power is definitely rising, even as fuel efficiency climbs.

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