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Elizabeth M
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Great American car
Elizabeth M   2/3/2014 9:23:16 AM
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Well this classic car has certainly come a long way! Its contemporary design is looking great. But in my opinion, nothing beats the classic Mustang from the 60s. My first car was actually a Mustang--a 1976 (not nearly so stylish) that didn't last long because no one told me I had to put oil in the engine! Still, even if I am biased, it's nice to see this classic design looking so modern and being equipped with such advanced technology. I may be wrong, but isn't it one of the oldest American designs still going?

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Charles Murray   2/3/2014 5:52:05 PM
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Believe it or not, Liz, the Chevy Suburban nameplate has the Mustang beat by about 30 years. I believe it was launched in around 1933 or '34. There may be other nameplates that were launched between the original launch of the Suburban and the Mustang.

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Elizabeth M   2/4/2014 4:59:55 AM
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I had a feeling you would know a fact like that, Chuck! Interesting. The Mustang was a good guess, though, wasn't it? (Especially from a non-car expert. ;)) It's good to see these old brands still going strong. What is the Suburban like these days? As modern and updated as the Mustang?

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ramjet@metrocast.net   2/4/2014 8:49:44 AM
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The Suburban is a Ponderous Heavy Very Large SUV with poor gas milage. It was also rated so-so on Maintenance. (3 of 5)

Says so right here: http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/Chevrolet_Suburban/

I have not driven one but it is BIG.

I prefer my New 2012 Xterra, it's Bigger than the original but not massive.

It has interesting cargo options and a better power to weight ratio yet did not reduce the fuel milage from the old one. Yes, I traded my 13 Year old one in on it. I expect this one to last just as well.

I like the new mustang but living in the Frozen north where I do it would be a poor choice for a primary vehicle. (6 to 12 inches of snow forecasted tonight /tomorrow) & I can't afford a spare one same as most folks.

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Elizabeth M   2/4/2014 8:52:17 AM
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Hmmm, so perhaps the Suburban brand hasn't held up and modernized the way Mustang seems to be doing...I'll have to do a bit of research on this. I don't live in the U.S. anymore...here in Europe there aren't that many American cars around. I drive a VW Transporter minibus more for lifestyle reasons than anything else.

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Reliabilityguru   2/4/2014 9:18:39 AM
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9 Million sold! It would be interesting to take a survey how many DN readers have ever owned a Mustang. I had a '69 Mustang Mach I fastback with a 351 Windsor engine. That car was an instant classic and it is still my favorite car of all time. It was so fast. I once "buried the speedometer" trying to see how fast it could go and the speedometer went up to 130! There was still more to go so I never found out.  I always heard the 351 Cleveland engine was even stronger. 

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fredsay   2/4/2014 9:40:05 AM
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My current car is a 2003 Cobra (Ford's code name: Terminator, bought new).

I've also owned a 1970 Fastback with a 351 Cleveland, an 86GT (put over 200k miles over 10 years), a 91 GT and a 98 Cobra (traded in for the 2003).

The 2003 is by far the fastest Mustang I've ever owned (and it's still stock). Off the line or passing on the highway, there are very few cars which can keep up with it. Top end is governed to 157pmh, but that's a good thing. Over 160mph, it gets real light and squirrlly without suspension and aerodynamic changes. But that's OK, because zero to sixty is where it's really fun. It can do 50mph in first, 74mph in second, and 105 in third. Fourth will hit the govenor before it hits redline (but I've never run it that fast). Giddy Up!

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tomorm   2/4/2014 11:47:09 AM
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I have owned 3 mustangs.  My first car was a '69 with a 302 that I rebuilt from the ground up.  A few years later, I dumped about $5000 in engine upgrades and was able to clock it at 150 mph before running out of road.  Still had room left, so never actually found its top speed.  I sold it to go to school, and when I graduated, I bought a 2002 GT convertible.  I replaced that with a 2006 GT and modified it inside and out.  It looked like something from a Fast and Furious movie.  The car really handled and performed well, and was my favorite of the 3 (all the greatness of the '69, plus all the modern comforts and fuel economy).  Never maxed it out either, but figure it is good for at least 160 mph.  The best part was that I could get around 25 mpg freeway with around 350 HP under the hood.

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fredsay   2/4/2014 12:53:47 PM
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I'd like to clarify my earlier comments about top speed, My experience has been with Fox body (1979 - 1993, SN95 (1994 - 1998) and new edge (1999 - 2004). I don't have any experience with 2005 and up and don't know whether or not these newer Mustangs have the same problems at excessive speed (160mph +) like they do up to 2004.

Sorry for any misunderstanding.

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Hank-4   2/4/2014 9:51:43 AM
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Have owned 3 Mustangs ... all IIs. One had a V6 (170CI) and the other two had 302s. All had 4-speeds. I am currently reworking the (1978) Mach II. Even the way Ford had crippled the 302 to comply with emmission regs could not keep it from putting out gobs of torque ... but it didn't have an impressive top end. My Mach II would only hit about 110 but it would get there vvery quickly. Adding a trubo to a 2.3 liter 4 is not a new idea for Ford. They did this with the Essex 2.3L in the Mustang in 1980 (or maybe 1981). Unfortunately, Ford had not done their homework on the stresses that supercharging brings to bear on an engine. These vehicles most often developed problems with the head gasket after about 30K-40K miles. I had the opportunity to drive one for about a week (was considering trading the Mach II). The car had plenty of pep (especially for a 2.3L) but under load with the t-charger spooled up, the noise on the inside of the car was ridiculous. Since the article states that the new mustang's 4 is 2.3L, I have to wonder if it's the Essex core. If so, I hope Ford has learned that ANY engine that is going to be supercharged should be designed from the oil pan up with supercharging in mind. The cylinder pressures get really high. Like many "experienced" Mustang lovers, I still think a Mustang should come with rumble of a V8.

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Ralphy Boy   2/5/2014 12:48:19 AM
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My older brother owned 3 Mustangs over the years. A 64, 65, and a 66.

Either the 64 or 65 was a convertible that he was fixing up when he past... can't remember which. Both of those were a bit rough. I got to drive them and found them a bit temperamental.

The 66 was beautiful... and RED... and sadly he rolled that one on a washboard of a road near our house. No damage to my brother but that car was a mess afterward. Twisted and wrinkled all over.

Being as I was in high school when he had that baby I was never behind the wheel until after they towed to the driveway and dropped it there like a busted reminder of what it once had been.

I think the other 2 were Tommy's attempts to reclaim the feeling driving the 66 gave him. I suspect it didn't work because I never saw him posing for pictures with them...  

I looked at new Mustangs a few years back when I was in the market. I just couldn't get past my 30 years old first impression of the car... But I do love the looks of the Mustang.

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Elizabeth M   2/5/2014 5:20:50 AM
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That would be interesting, Reliabilityguru. I bet the Mustang has touched a lot of people's lives and I bet most people of a certain generation can attach a memory or two to this type of car.

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Debera Harward   2/5/2014 4:37:29 AM
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Thanks Charles for such an interesting post , i am really fascinated with these Mustangs and according to Forde these Mustangs have the target market of yougsters because these cars are fully equipped with gadgets and this is the only thing they are interested in after looks .

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Critic   2/4/2014 10:12:11 AM
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The 1974 - 1978 "Mustang" was actually the Mustang II.  These were based on the Pinto platform.  If you take a look at the Mustang II's lines, you can see the resemblance to the Pinto.  Mustang fans generally do not acknowledge the Mustang II as a true Mustang.

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JimT@Future-Product-Innovations   2/5/2014 11:30:00 AM
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And to that point, try to find either today.  These vehicles literally have disintegrated back into dust. Finding a Pinto, Mustang-II, or the comparable Chevy Vega is a true rarity.  Model-T's are more common today.

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What is and what could have been
naperlou   2/3/2014 10:34:00 AM
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Chuck, the Mustang is truly an icon.  I had a girlfriend who had a mid-1970s Mustang.  That was when cars just got larger and larger.  It was a boat. 

I am really intrigued by the Ford I concept car.  If they had come out with that at the time, they would have given the European two seaters of the time some real competition.  While the English and Italian cars were really cool and fun to drive, they were very poorly made.  Many people might have opted for a Ford at the time.  I also think that the body style seems to lend itself better to modern bumpers than many of the Europeans.  I had an MG B, among many others, that had an aluminum hood to reduce weight, so the use of aluminum on the Ford I is interesting, especially given current trends.  In addition, we were designing open wheel race cars with space frames at the time.  The bodies were fiberglass.  Very racy thinking.

The 2.3L four is an interesting development.  Do you have any info on gas mileage?

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Charles Murray   2/3/2014 5:53:18 PM
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No input on gas mielage of the 2.3-liter Mustang just yet, naperlou. That will come out some time later this year.

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angelicagheptanB   2/4/2014 2:43:18 AM
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That was interesting. It is fuel economy and a fast car. I love it.

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fredsay   2/4/2014 9:07:33 AM
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Before y'all break out the party hats over gas mileage, since it is turbocharged, it WILL require premium gas, which around here is $0.30 - 0.40 higher than regular gas. Consider that when looking at it's mpg. A turbo will mean more gas (due to increased compression or it will go lean and melt a piston or two) so it's mileage will not be as good as a n/a 4cylinder. While the V-8 may have lower mpg, if it runs on 87octane, it may be almost as economical as far as gas costs. Plus, a naturally aspirated engine will last longer than either a turbocharged or supercharged engine. And unless you add a per-oiler which will continue to drip oil on the turbo bearing after the car has shut down (while the turbo is still spooling down), you can expect to replace the turbo around 60,000 miles. Make mine a V-8 the way the Mustang Gods intended.

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emisson   2/4/2014 9:46:20 AM
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All the Ford Ecoboost engines use 87 octane gas.  The gas is directly injected into each cylinder under high pressure just prior to spark ignition.  This eliminates the premature detonation that can occur when using regular fuel in high compression engines.

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fredsay   2/4/2014 9:54:53 AM
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I stand corrected. Thanks for the clarification.

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GRXTN   2/4/2014 12:52:49 PM
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My first car was a 69 Mach1 w/351 high compression engine. Now, after lot of muscle cars like T/A, 280ZX, Corvette, Porsche, three BMWs etc., when I am closer to my retirement I would like to buy another Mustang again but...

You are right about small engines w/turbos, but there is more: Heavy car with such a small engine won't slow down when you release the gas. Breaks are going to wear much faster. Car just keeps going and going... I hate that, especially on the muscle car! Since I always drive stick shift (today BMW M3), I never had to replace my brake pads.

Style issue: I don't like that rear bumper being divided with ugly horizontal depression and that big black plastic plate between the lights. Looks like bumper is deeper than those lights... I know what I am saying because I design consumer products myself.

Gauges: they still need more refinement and the whole cluster should be embraced with arched dash, not flat! That's old and ugly. I want to feel like I am in the cockpit. Camaro have it even worse! I guess those cars are not made for people with more discriminating taste...

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William K.   2/4/2014 5:30:51 PM
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GRXTN, brake pads are about the cheapest wear part on a car, and if you change them yourself, which has never been hard on any of my cars, they are about the same effort as an oil change, but without needing to crawl under the car. Even replacing them ever 30K miles will be less than $100 over the life of the car. Possibly one more time if you really brake hard a lot.

Of course if you have the dealer do it then it is more like $1500 over the cars life. But I hate goiung to the dealer for those things that I find easy, and even fun, almost, to do myself.

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Engine Changes
bob from maine   2/3/2014 11:01:57 AM
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It would seem that the newest engines have gone to supercharging to effectively increase displacement, and also changed the basic concept of a gasoline engine from requiring a constant ratio of fuel to air to something more along the line of diesels where only enough fuel is injected to do the job. If fuel is injected directly into a cylinder and the fuel/air ratio at the spark-plug was just right, the flame front would propagate into the leaner portion of the cylinder. It would be interesting to see a CFD analysis of a cylinder running at an air/fuel ratio of 50 or 60 to 1 as opposed to the 18:1 our old carburated and fuel injected engines have been using. Cooling of the internal metal parts must still be an issue. I can't imagine any other method a 300HP engine could achieve 29+ MPG.

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John   2/4/2014 9:44:46 AM
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Those numbers seem really phenominal.  That much power out of a little ole 4 banger?  I would like to see one of these 4 bangers vs. the most efficient V8 duke it out at the drag strip.  See who is really quicker.  I would think the 4 banger would have to have some super high dollar components to stay together and create that much power.  With Ford having issues in the past with lazy lifters, I don't know about this new engine.  I'll stick with my clicky 289 and see how the little 4 banger runs for a few years. 

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Turbineman   2/4/2014 11:30:02 AM
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I think the secret to high output I4's has always been a turbo or supercharger.  Years ago I carpooled with 3 other adult males.  One of them had a '69 VW Bug with stock 1600 type 1 engine.  The only modification was a Ray-Jay turbocharger he bolted on.  Our route to work contained a 1.2 mile 7% uphill grade with a traffic light at the bottom.  The four of us were shoehorned in.  The light turned green.  At the top of the hill we were doing 82mph with the boost gage at 24 lb.  That's a lot of cylinder pressure, but the VW 1600 didn't seem to care.

Ah yes....the Ford 289.  I was told by who I thought was a reputable mechanic (He owned the largest repair garage in Pheonix at the time but was a Mech Design Engineer when we talked.) that when Lee Iacocca ran the Mustage Program, for an engine he plagerized the Studebaker 289 bolt-for-bolt, and in fact you could almose exchange parts between the two.  I don't know if this is true, but would be interesting research.  I do know the Ford 289 didn't get the 32 mpg the Studebaker one did, like in my Aunt's '62 Lark, which I loved to drive.

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William K.   2/4/2014 5:38:15 PM
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Back around 1960 there was a 250 CID four cylinder engine made by the folks at Offenhauser that would run for hours delivering about 1000Horsepower. Of course that was at some screaming RPM, which I don't know just how fast, but they did sound a bit like a chain saw as they would scream by on the track. And I heard reports from a Chrysler dyno operator that they were able to get about 600 HP from a 225 CID "stock" slant Six, just by adding a steam driven turbocharger. But that engine then disassembled into small fragments, and so that was the end of that line of experiments.

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JimT@Future-Product-Innovations   2/5/2014 11:32:53 AM
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300 HP from a 2.3L 4cylinder-? That merits a test drive. However, I suspect it's a turbocharger. By the name, "EcoBoost" (Ford Fusion currently markets this) it sounds as if it's a turbo-charge application of extra power. Personally, I've never driven a turbo that I'd buy, because I don't like the delay between initial power and turbo power.

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John   2/5/2014 12:06:56 PM
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I noticed Cadillac released a 4 cylinder twin turbo engine in hopes of competing with foreign sports cars.  I can't help but to wonder if Ford is trying to do the same thing with the Mustang even though the article seems to focus on enironmentally friendly aspects.  Ford did drop the Ford GT some time ago.

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JimT@Future-Product-Innovations   2/5/2014 12:33:42 PM
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Funny you would cite the Cadillac example – When the new ATS was named 2013 Car-of-the-Year, I became infatuated with its style, features, and sticker.-price  I had to drive it!  However, one trip around the block, and I was cured; the 272HP-Turbo had too much lag & delay.  Not impressive performance.  Turbo power is just not as quick as real HP; I fell out-of-love just as quickly.

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Charles Murray   2/5/2014 8:34:45 PM
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I don't blame you for being skeptical, John. I had the same reaction when I first heard the numbers.

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No longer looks like a Mustang
99guspuppet   2/4/2014 7:59:26 PM
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I would rather have a car that looked liked a vintage muscle car and was loaded up with 4 of the baddest direct drive to wheel electric motors I could find.  When I find the secret of zero point horizon energy I will accelerate to my doom.     99guspuppet

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4 Banger
Cadman-LT   2/5/2014 3:57:28 AM
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I don't care how effiecient it is, if I buy a Mustang I want 8 cylinders screaming power and giving hell! That is what Mustangs are about. Not....can I save a few gallons of gas. I have owned 2 and they were not good on gas. They were good on fun though.

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Cadman-LT   2/5/2014 3:59:22 AM
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BTW, they weren't new Mustangs, they were old ones.....the real Mustangs! 

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Cadman-LT   2/5/2014 4:02:18 AM
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I get upset when people buy these new Mustangs and call themselves Mustang fans. They aren't. They are jokes. Only old school Mustang fans get Mustangs. You can't just go buy a new stang and call yourself a Mustang guy.

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Elizabeth M   2/5/2014 6:30:37 AM
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I tend to agree with you, Cadman-LT, but not everyone was lucky enough (or is old enough!) to have been around when some of the more classic old-school Mustangs were around. Sure there are a lot of them out there that have been preserved but the younger generation just isn't going to get it. But perhaps that's not exactly what you're referring to...this is just my opinion.

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Cadman-LT   3/14/2014 9:15:17 PM
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Elizabeth, no that's pretty much what I meant. The classics are classics for a reason. You don't see any new car becoming a classic...not really. It just doesn't happen anymore. I doubt anyone in 2030 will restore a 2013 Mustang. 

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Elizabeth M   3/17/2014 5:56:47 AM
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I agree with you Cadman-LT. They just don't make 'em like they used to! ;) Although the GT mentioned in your other comment sounds pretty cool, too.

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Re: 4 Banger
Cadman-LT   4/4/2014 2:10:24 PM
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Elizabeth, it is a cool car. I just don't get the same feeling riding in a new car. It might be faster 0-60, but it doesn't scare me. That 390 scares me! Not sure if I mentioned it, but I had a 79' Cobra. I blew the engine and my dad bought me a race one. Bad idea! That thing was toooo fast! Lotta fun though!

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Cadman-LT   4/4/2014 2:21:11 PM
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My dad made me sell it, because I kept wrecking it. It was a VERY noticeble car though. Bright red. I just hated when I would see it around town. "There's my car" so sad...lol I want to buy one and make it like my old one. Maybe one day.

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Elizabeth M   4/7/2014 3:58:45 AM
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Sounds like you are a real car enthusiast, Cadman-LT. Do you still have any of those old cars now? I had an uncle who was really into restoring old cars. They were really amazing and so much more stylish than the new ones, which all seem to look alike to me.

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Re: 4 Banger
Cadman-LT   4/7/2014 6:01:25 AM
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Elizabeth, geez...I wish I did. I would like to get another '79 Cobra like I had. They used to be cheap, but are getting expensive with all the car resto shows on tv and everything. I'll never have the engine I had though, it was insane! And I don't even know what it really was. My dad never told me. He's not around to tell me now either. All I know is it was a race built 302 painted Ford blue and it screamed and had no reason to be in my car!...lol It was just too fast for that car. No wonder I wrecked it....lol 

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Cadman-LT   4/7/2014 6:08:16 AM
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What I meant was it didn't have the handling or braking for that kind of engine. You can't just drop a race engine in a normal car and be ok. Which is what we did. Like I said, no wonder I wrecked it. I was going down a crazy windy road about 80 and the car couldn't handle it. I just spun it around a few times off a guard rail and a big blue post office mail box, but I drove home. It wasn't totalled or anything just beat up pretty bad. My dad was mad enough to sell it though.

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Re: 4 Banger
Cadman-LT   4/7/2014 6:09:32 AM
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Elizabeth, I do agree with you about the new cars. you can't hardly tell one from another, or what year they are. Oh yeah that's a Mustang, or a Camaro, or whatever, but I can't tell what year it is....just it's a newer one! Even my next door buddy who is a mechanic thought my friends 2008 was brand new!

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Re: 4 Banger
Cadman-LT   4/7/2014 6:20:44 AM
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Elizabeth, here's a funny quick story. This is when I had the original engine in my '79 Cobra. This was back in '89. I was racing a friend in a '70 Challenger down a highway. My speedo only went to 85 and pegged out. We were WAY beyond that. He eventually beat me. Afterwards I had to ask him how fast we were going, because I was pegged. He said 130. Not too bad for a '79 stang. I can't imagine what it would have done with that race engine! That was a worn out engine. Imagine a brand new balanced and blueprinted race engine. Maybe 150!? Never know, but that is fast even for today.

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Re: 4 Banger
Cadman-LT   4/7/2014 6:28:43 AM
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Elizabeth, see you got me started...lol I love talking about cars. See that Cobra I had, it had a 3-speed w/OD. That meant (I think it was for this) you could take it to the strip and use the 3 gears and be fast, but on the freeway you had a gas saving OD. My buddys '67 is just built for the strip. I would hate to drive that thing on the freeway! Suck gas and rattle your teeth.

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Re: 4 Banger
Cadman-LT   3/14/2014 9:21:46 PM
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Elizabeth, my buddy just bought a 2008 GT. It looks brand new inside, out, engine, everything. He is a Mustang guy like me. He also just got done restoring a 67' fastback. Cherry red, 390. The GT is "fast", but that 390 is "scary fast"...lol

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Re: 4 Banger
Cadman-LT   3/14/2014 9:26:00 PM
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I have to rephrase that. They are both fast. The GT has power, but when you are in the fastback with the 390....it's so powerful it's scary. The GT seems gentle in comparison. Some will get what I mean, some won't.

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Re: 4 Banger
John   2/5/2014 12:02:22 PM
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As the owner of a 67 mustang, I have learned that there are a large number of people who may not have owned a mustang from 64-73, but might have known someon who had one and they really liked the car.  And still do. 

I am way too young to have had one in the 60's but I always wanted a 67 and my few years I got to work at a classic mustang parts store studying Ford's master parts book and vast interior/exterior options for every model just added to my appreciation for the completely original mustang. 

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Re: Turbineman & the Ford 289
gomnessta   2/5/2014 11:55:46 AM
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Just wanted to comment on the mention of the Ford & Studebaker 289's... as a longtime fan of Studebaker's Legacy, and the onetime owner of a 1963 R1 Avanti, I can attest to the fact that, aside from their shared displacement & cylinder complement, the Ford & Stude 289 V8's resembled each other not at all. The Studebaker was a comparatively humongous chunk of iron (comparable in weight to a Cadillac mill of the same vintage) while the Ford was an example of what I'd call a true smallblock with a long lineage since that time. Though their displacement was the same, the Studebaker had a rather long stroke/small bore while the Ford was an "oversquare" design with a larger bore/short stroke. I doubt the Studebaker could have come close to fitting in a Mustang's engine bay, without some major surgery - and the weight distribution whould've been even worse!

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turbo? or super? charger....
Thinking_J   2/6/2014 6:55:35 PM
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I have noticed Media being "dumbed down" a bit when using certain terms.

Turbo charging is one of those terms. (turbo charged shavers?)

Turbo charging is a specific type of supercharging method - involving use of exhaust gas pressure to drive the compressor.

Super charging is a bit less specific - only indicates a compressor on the intake - not always mechanically driven , but generally mechanically driven.

I have never heard of a "twin scroll" (a very specific compressor design) turbo charging system... Too much mechanical mass for an exhaust gas pressure turbine to drive - without EXTREME lag.

Twin scroll supercharging? .. plenty of these around... and they should have nearly zero lag. Effectly increased displacement without increasing mechanical/frictional losses.

 

Upon further research .. the are NO twin scrolls in the new turbo charger for this car. Don't know why anyone would use this term. They apparently intend "twin scrolls" to describe the exhaust manifold coming off the turbines. Bad idea.

There is some new turbine ideas being implimented (to allow effectiveness over larger RPM range) .. effectively created a sequencial turbo charging system to minimize lag. Only difference from older dual sequ. systems? changing of nozzle size / location on a single turbine based on engine speed instead of using two (low / high speed) turbines.

 

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Re: turbo? or super? charger....
Charles Murray   2/6/2014 7:12:36 PM
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From Ford's technical information: "This is the first Ford engine to use a low-inertia twin-scroll turbocharger that provides quicker boost response while enabling lower emissions and improved efficiency." You should let Ford know that that your research shows they don't have a twin-scroll turbocharger, Thinking_J.

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Kevslatvin   2/10/2014 2:51:32 PM
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Mazda used a twin scroll turbo whay back in the 80's on the 1987 Rx7.

http://www.mazda.com/mazdaspirit/rotary/story/p5.html

Mazda's system may be different then current twin scroll turbos but the basic premise is the same.

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bobjengr   2/8/2014 11:12:06 AM
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There is no doubt in my mind; with 9 million Mustangs sold over the life of the product, this brand CAN be described as a Great American Car.  There are others of course but as a kid growing up in the 60s Mustang and Camero were the cars to own.  I think engine technology described in this post indicates great engineering and great improvements all aimed at providing the same thrills previously delivered.  I know this is really trivial, but I like the 125 color combination possibilities for the dash.  I think that's very creative.  Several weeks ago I visited a client, rented a car from Hertz, and was very disappointed when illumination for the dash was total RED.  I don't mean a sutle red but RED and without the benefit of dimming.  ( Maybe at night I could not find the dimmer but trust me on this one--I don't think it was there. ) Great post Charles.  I look forward to Ford's commercialization of this one.  I definitely will visit my local Ford dealership.   

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Charles Murray   2/8/2014 4:35:34 PM
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I definitely agree with your take on MyColor, BobJengr. It's a great technology that really enhances the Mustang's interior. Your experience with the rental car is interesting, largely because the whole idea of MyColor is to be able to customize it. I defintely would not want a bright red light behind the gauges. That sounds unpleasant.

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