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8/22/2013

TwinKinds lifelike 3D-printed statues carry a high price tag and are as fragile as sand.   (Source: TwinKinds)
TwinKinds lifelike 3D-printed statues carry a high price tag and are as fragile as sand.
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Rob Spiegel
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High price, small customer base
Rob Spiegel   8/22/2013 10:18:00 AM
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Cabe, I can't imagine what kind of customer base they have at these prices. You would think someone could take the basic technology and use a different material that is less fragile. Seems like the cost should be able to come down in time.,

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Greg M. Jung   8/22/2013 2:50:33 PM
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I agree with you Rob.  I think this is now a novelty for people with a lot of extra cash to spend.  (However, as the prices go down, who knows what markets will be created from this new idea).

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Rob Spiegel   8/22/2013 3:58:16 PM
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If nothing else, I can see this technology moving to the virtual world where you can insert your likeness into SIMS. If it's not too expensive, there would be a real market.

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TJ McDermott   8/22/2013 5:27:24 PM
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Greg, I see a BOOMING voodoo doll market when the price drops a bit.

I had to get that out of my system.

 

I'm of two minds - sure, this is a bit silly and extravagant.  And yet, I could see giving one as a gift (maybe as a somewhat elaborate gag).  Or as a doll set of a family (assuming they can be fabricated of more robust material).  There're possiblities to be sure.

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TJ McDermott   8/22/2013 5:24:13 PM
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Rob, I bet there'd be a larger customer base (even at this price) if the 3D scanner was not needed.

If the company can offer such a product generated from several photographs (to synthesize a 3D model), I bet there would be a rather large gift market.

Snapping a couple of pictures (while subtly panning to get stereo effect) of a friend is innocuous behavior.  Email them, and get back something like that?

When we were tykes, customized, personalized story books were available.  I'm sure they were considered expensive, but there was always a market.

 

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Rob Spiegel   8/22/2013 5:34:23 PM
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Yes, those storybooks were expensive, TJ, but they were still affordable for most of those who would be interested is that type of gift. I like your idea of creating a gift market sans the 3D printewr.

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Charles Murray   8/22/2013 9:12:07 PM
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Yikes, the "woman" in the photo is a statue? I wouldna believed it.

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Rob Spiegel   8/23/2013 9:28:28 AM
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Yes, Chuck, and it could be you standing there. For the price of a cheap used car, you could have a statue of yourself standing on your desk as you work all day.

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GTOlover   8/23/2013 10:29:30 AM
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Now if they had a life size statue of me at my desk (with perhaps a small movement once in a while), I wonder how long before someone stops in my cubicle and notices?

Another market is wives who want their husbands to place statues of themselves on their desk. Sort of a "stake their ground" approach ;-)

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Rob Spiegel   8/23/2013 11:50:35 AM
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Stake in the ground indeed. Any way you look at it, it's creepy.

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Ann R. Thryft   8/27/2013 1:05:55 PM
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Here are two others, a miniature and a full-sized replica.
This is another, similar service for a doll-sized replica, My3DTwin:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2348962/3D-printer-make-doll-sized-twin-24
And perhaps much weirder, a Japanese roboticist has made a full-sized twin of himself:
http://japandailypress.com/japanese-robotics-scientist-hiroshi-ishiguro-unveils-body-double-robot-1730686/



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Rob Spiegel   8/27/2013 4:36:48 PM
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Ann, I'm not too surprised to find this process is not unique. I would like to know, however, if anyone is making a decent profit out of the process.

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Ann R. Thryft   8/27/2013 4:38:49 PM
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Actually, Rob, my bet is this would be much more popular than you might think, and not just among teenage girls.

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Ann R. Thryft   8/28/2013 2:14:41 PM
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If people love to see themselves on TV and in YouTube videos, then I think they'll love this. But I think Rob's point is a good one regarding how profitable it will be.

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Charles Murray   8/28/2013 4:09:32 PM
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Good point, Ann. There must be a market here that I'm not seeing. I just can't imagine wanting a statue of myself on my desk.

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Ann R. Thryft   8/28/2013 4:18:42 PM
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I can't imagine wanting one of me either, Chuck, but I know some people who would really go for this.

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Rob Spiegel   8/29/2013 1:24:30 PM
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Interesting comment, Ann. I could see it as a model for people to try on new looks. Otherwise, wouldn't be a tad embarrassing to have around?

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Ann R. Thryft   8/29/2013 2:18:52 PM
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Rob, it would be embarrassing to you or I, but it seems that many younger people weren't trained to have the same sense of modesty.

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Rob Spiegel   9/3/2013 11:35:24 AM
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You may be right, Ann. In the era of Facebook, drawing attention to yourself my not have any negative connotations. 

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JRThro   8/23/2013 9:01:01 AM
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TJ, take a look at this app that's available from Autodesk. It produces a 3D object file from multiple photos, and is free. Of course, having the object 3D printed costs something.

http://www.123dapp.com/catch

 

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Pubudu   8/25/2013 12:40:52 AM
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Yes TJ defiantly there will be a market for SIMS, but if they charging 300/= per 6 inchers I feel that the price is also will be high for the SIMS also.

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far911   8/25/2013 4:21:10 AM
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@Pubudu - In case of SIMS, it'll require production in bulk so I'm pretty positive the prices will come down. 

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mrdon   8/22/2013 10:21:06 PM
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Rob,

You took the words right out of my mouth. For such a expensive item, it should be made out of a durable material that can withstand normal environmental conditions.

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a.saji   8/23/2013 5:31:51 AM
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@mrdon: Yes true but this kind of an application does require high end material. So if we are to get the maximum out of it, then surely we do have to accommodate high-end material for it.        

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mrdon   8/23/2013 5:57:25 PM
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a.saji

Ok, I understand about the high end material but shouldn't it be durable as well since its quite expensive?

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Pubudu   8/25/2013 12:49:16 AM
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@a.saji, if it's going to use high end material for a better quality definitely it will increase the price further more. I thing that different level of quality, for the different leave of pricing would be the best option. 

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Rob Spiegel   8/23/2013 10:23:12 AM
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That's right MrDon. It seems logical to make these avatars out of durable materials, especially since there seems to be a wide choice of materials for 3D printing. Maybe I'm missing something.

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mrdon   8/23/2013 6:16:08 PM
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Rob

I believe were both missing something. The concept of creating an physical avatar sounds great but the cost doesn't justify why the product isn't durable. I'm not quite sure the math adds up here.

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Rob Spiegel   8/27/2013 3:08:29 PM
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I agree completely, MrDon. I would think if the technology works on one set of materials, it shoiuld work on another -- more durable -- set of materials.

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mrdon   9/1/2013 6:22:36 PM
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Rob,

Thanks for the comment. At some point there must be justification in cost for material durability which is not clearly visible or explained with this 3D application/ service.

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J. Williams   8/23/2013 9:47:40 AM
What's wrong with a photograph?  It all seems somehow narcissistic.

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Rob Spiegel   8/23/2013 10:27:31 AM
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Oh yes, J. Williams, it's narcissistic all right -- a little mini-me for the desk. You'd have to have a pretty positive self image. If I had an image of myself close by, it would just seem creepy.

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J. Williams   8/27/2013 11:20:20 AM
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But, then again, if I had to look at that spare tire of mine, it might just motivate me to do more about it.  :-)

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Rob Spiegel   8/27/2013 4:02:04 PM
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I can relate to that J. Williams.

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Pubudu   8/25/2013 12:27:52 AM
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Rue Rob I also agree with you, I also can't imaging the target customers for these products who will pay that much of money 

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far911   8/25/2013 4:20:42 AM
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@Pubudu - I don't think mainstream customers are a target at this point. This is still experimental work. Sophistication is inevitable, so are lower production and retail costs. 

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Rob Spiegel   8/27/2013 3:19:13 PM
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I can't imagine who would buy this, Pubudu. I don't even see how you wouid market it. However, if you brought the price down and made it out of durable materials, I can see teenage girls going for it.

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Charles Murray   8/27/2013 6:14:41 PM
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I agree, Rob. I can't imagine who would buy this. Parents who want statuettes of their kids? Even that...I doubt it.

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Be your own meme
NadineJ   8/22/2013 10:31:44 AM
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This is fun.  It seems more complicated than the technology used to create the Sad Keanu figure a few years ago.  A picture of Keanu Reeves sitting on a park bench became a meme in 2010. Shapeways.com offers all sorts of fun 3D printed items but not custom, as far as I remember.

It's pricey but a good gift idea to turn a favourite facebook post into a 3D memory. 

sad keanu

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4D printing
Mydesign   8/23/2013 6:22:28 AM
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Cabe, recently I had read about 4D printing. It seems that technology is going beyond imagination at avery high speed. As of now 3D is not so common and using only for very limited high end application printing

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Pubudu   8/25/2013 1:34:49 AM
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Mydesign 4D printing? It's very interesting , What is the other dimension that they are going to use?

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"4D printing? It's very interesting , What is the other dimension that they are going to use?"

Pubudu, I don't have much idea about 4D printing, I had just read one article about it, that's all.



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Ann R. Thryft   8/29/2013 2:16:51 PM
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Mydesign, we wrote about it but didn't call it 4D printing, because the name is silly. The 4th dimension is, of course, time: 3D printing is occurring over time during a self-assembly process:

http://www.designnews.com/author.asp?section_id=1392&doc_id=260118

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Print Yourself
apresher   8/23/2013 6:49:02 AM
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Obviously this does have all kinds of potential. At the 6-inch size, it would be interesting to see the level of detail for the money.

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Debera Harward   8/23/2013 4:32:48 PM
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Thanks Cabe for sharig such informative post . I actually got fantasised by your post its great that one can 3D Print oneself ths is really innovative . we can use such printed objects as gifts , as decorative items in houses. One get her or himself printed the way they want its really great .

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Debera Harward   8/23/2013 4:40:50 PM
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I guess this technology will emerge and will become so popular in future that it might eliminate the concept of photography. People will start to place 3D printed replicas of themselves instead of placing pictures .

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Pubudu   8/25/2013 1:40:18 AM
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Now I feel that there will be a big demand in these from the film industries , this will be a cheaper option for them in some shootings. 

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far911   8/25/2013 4:24:36 AM
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@Pubudu - Good point. Filmmaking just might get revolutionized by this as the level of detail produced in this 3D printing is above and beyond the conventional figures used in making movies. 

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I think I will name it Mini Me
BrainiacV   8/23/2013 10:27:45 AM
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My clone army will bankrupt me.

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woodla   8/23/2013 10:28:09 AM
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I'm impressed with the color accuracy.  They must be hand painted.

I don't think this technology can print so many different color details.

Any other ideas?

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Charles Murray   8/23/2013 11:06:27 AM
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Yes, the color accuracy and the level of detail are really impressive, woodla. I was convinced that was a photo of a real person.

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RickR   8/23/2013 12:38:35 PM
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I'm pretty sure it is a photo of a real person photoshopped onto the background. If you zoom in about 200% you can clearly see the halo artifact around the woman. That halo is evident when two photos are combined.

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Charles Murray   8/23/2013 5:17:46 PM
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Good eye, RickR. I zoomed in and saw the same halo.

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Pubudu   8/25/2013 1:48:26 AM
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@RickR, I tried to do that but I could not get it can you please extract it again. 

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vimalkumarp   8/24/2013 5:58:41 AM
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Yes excellent fidelity.  I was  also convinced that was a photo of a real person. It will be interesting to see the possibilities. Madame Tussauds may be a prospective customer.

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far911   8/24/2013 8:10:11 AM
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If you look closely, the floor gives it away. But regardless, this is amazing stuff. The level of detail you can print in such a miniature is mind boggling. Thumbs up! 

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3D Print Yourself
apresher   8/23/2013 4:07:00 PM
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Rick,  Definitely an altered photo.

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Charles Murray   8/23/2013 5:19:22 PM
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I believe you're right, Al. Gee...it looked so real.

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Corona Rich   8/26/2013 8:38:58 AM
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While perusing the museum the other day I saw a detailed bust of a Neanderthal.  Having just read an article on 3d printing, I thought it would be amusing to arrange to have someone who accompanies you to the museum to be scanned, so it can be THEIR FACE in the display case by the time you get to the bust of the Neanderthal.  Record their reaction on videotape.

At present, an expensive joke, but pricies WILL come down.

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AnandY   9/4/2013 2:36:05 AM
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I don't love pictures much but this is something I would definitely want to try. Ann I read your post today on 3D priniting for lenses. I use glasses and with the new technology I would definitely want my 'mini-me' to at least have real glasses. Once they can make bigger reproductions maybe I can borrow the glasses once in a while.

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Ann R. Thryft   9/6/2013 1:16:18 PM
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AnandY, glad you liked my post on 3D printed eyeglasses and lenses. Other readers can find it here:
http://www.designnews.com/author.asp?section_id=1392&doc_id=267310

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