HOME  |  NEWS  |  BLOGS  |  MESSAGES  |  FEATURES  |  VIDEOS  |  WEBINARS  |  RESOURCE CENTER  |  INDUSTRIES
REGISTER   |   LOGIN   |   HELP
Blogs
CAD/CAM Corner

Gates Foundation Flushes Out Winning Toilet Designs

NO RATINGS
View Comments: Newest First|Oldest First|Threaded View
<<  <  Page 2/3  >  >>
Scott Orlosky
User Rank
Platinum
Re: Getting it out there
Scott Orlosky   8/21/2012 12:41:18 PM
NO RATINGS
Just a quick comment, Ann.  Though the use of human waste for energy doesn't appear to be common, my friends who have travelled extensively inform me that the use of dried animal dung as a cooking fuel is alive and well in the third world.  Nothing like a high-fiber diet to create a high energy output.

Ann R. Thryft
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Getting it out there
Ann R. Thryft   8/21/2012 12:24:18 PM
NO RATINGS
A surprising amount of what the first world considers garbage or waste actually contains energy or other properties that could be harvested: not just plastic and other landfill debris, but manure, too. Using manure as fertilizer (after lots of processing of course) isn't a new idea in history, although I believe turning it into energy is.

rowen2k
User Rank
Iron
Re: Getting it out there
rowen2k   8/21/2012 12:09:47 PM
NO RATINGS
Dave Palmer has the right idea.  Some of the Universities worldwide and in third world countries are working on a cheaper solution to drinking water and sanitation based on their individual situations and cultures. The ideas that we develop in a first world country  can at the most be applied in the first world country. Anywhere else it may not be relevant.  The Gates Foundation has the right attitude and we need to change our toilets in the US.  They just waste a ton of water.  Our lawns waste a ton of water.  Our cities waste a ton of water. Let me stop..  You get the point.  Water will be a big problem in the US in 10 to 15 years. Efficient use of our resources is mandatory, not a choice.

Scott Orlosky
User Rank
Platinum
Re: Getting it out there
Scott Orlosky   8/20/2012 11:05:45 PM
NO RATINGS
Ann, I like your take on this challenge.  I didn't happen to see any entrants with half-moon cutouts on the doors.  All kidding aside I think this is on the right track to focus on "appropriate" levels of technology to solve problems.  The results definitely have a first world feel to them, but hopefully future challenges will incorporate use of local materials and infrastucture into the solutions.  Hats off to the Gates foundation for getting the ball rolling.

Charles Murray
User Rank
Blogger
Turning it into charcoal
Charles Murray   8/20/2012 7:58:15 PM
NO RATINGS
In a separate story, I noticed that one of the entrants was electrically powered and turned excrement into charcoal. Although electric power is not readily available in some developing countries (which may be why it didn't win), it's an interesting idea because it apparently doesn't need a complex sanitation infrastructure.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=158816328

Beth Stackpole
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Getting it out there
Beth Stackpole   8/20/2012 1:13:31 PM
NO RATINGS
Great points Dave. In fact, I really didn't consider how cultural differences/implications might impact use of a toilet. These types of considerations are just as integral to the maintenance and repair issues I raised earlier in terms of ensuring long-term adoption.

Ann R. Thryft
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Getting it out there
Ann R. Thryft   8/20/2012 1:04:07 PM
NO RATINGS
Considering how much pure, drinkable water is wasted on flushing toilets in the first world, this looks like a great research project that could help everyone. OTOH, dry and composting toilets have been around a long time, and are used by campers, rural hippies, and Amish communities, among others.

tekochip
User Rank
Platinum
Any Details
tekochip   8/20/2012 12:04:13 PM
NO RATINGS
Nice story.  It seems there are a bunch of questions about deployment and sustainability.  This looks like a good place for a follow-up with details on the winning design.

 

Rob Spiegel
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Getting it out there
Rob Spiegel   8/20/2012 11:18:30 AM
NO RATINGS
Good points. I think the idea of maintenance and repair needs to be part of the overall consideration of deploying these units. This is a great idea. Basic sanitation goes a long way to improving lives in developing countries. Plus, Gates got a big bang for few bucks. It's interesting to see the inventiveness that comes from relatively small prizes.

Dave Palmer
User Rank
Platinum
Re: Getting it out there
Dave Palmer   8/20/2012 11:03:27 AM
NO RATINGS
It looks like the grants (with one exception) are going to universities and research institutions in developed countries, rather than developing countries.  Most people in developed countries have no idea of the realities of life for poor people in developing countries.  These researchers may develop latrines that are technologically clever and highly sanitary, but unless they work closely with the people who will be using these latrines and understand their conditions of life, there is no chance of their technologies being adopted.

Interestingly enough, I was reading Gandhi's autobiography over the weekend, and in one chapter, he talks about improving the cleanliness of latrines in Rajkot.  He mentioned that poor people, including untouchables, were more receptive to recommendations to improve sanitation than their better-off neighbors.  But I fear that no one, whether rich or poor, will be ready to adopt a technology that has been developed by outsiders who don't understand their culture or day-to-day life.  I hope that the researchers will seek the input and participation of the communities they hope to serve.

<<  <  Page 2/3  >  >>
Partner Zone
More Blogs from CAD/CAM Corner
CAD tools, the software and hardware that has built our modern world, are evolving.
Connected Data releases the Transporter V2.0 and merges with rival company, Drobo.
A California-based couple has found a way to use a 3D printer and granulated sugar to make intricate, edible geometrical decorations.
IMRSV tailors advertisements to passersby. Is privacy at stake in the digital age?
Advanced Micro Devices' latest release brings a cloud-based graphics boost, along with unparalleled performance, to the workstation.
Design News Webinar Series
5/30/2013 11:00 a.m. California / 2:00 p.m. New York / 7:00 p.m. London
5/29/2013 11:00 a.m. California / 2:00 p.m. New York / 7:00 p.m. London
6/25/2013 11:00 a.m. California / 2:00 p.m. New York / 7:00 p.m. London
6/27/2013 11:00 a.m. California / 2:00 p.m. New York / 7:00 p.m. London
Blogs from Our Sponsors
From Dell / Intel®
New Paradigms in Design Work
Scott Hamilton, vertical market strategist for Dell Precision workstations, 5/2/2013    5
Early in my career, I worked as a draftsman and remember the days of drawing on vellum with numbered pencils and Mylar with plastic lead. This was a fun experience in the sense that I ...
From Dell / Intel®
Increased Workstation Performance Is as Easy as 'DPPO'
Trey Morton, Dell, 4/25/2013    2
I've been using workstations for more than 10 years and love finding ways to get more performance from my system. With demanding professional applications that require more power each ...
From Dell / Intel®
Taking Some of the Grit out of Manufacturing
Kirsten Billhardt, Manufacturing Industry Marketing Strategist, Dell, 3/26/2013    5
A lasting memory from my first job as an engineer in an auto assembly plant is standing on hard concrete at six in the morning, vending-machine coffee clutched in hand, listening to ...
Quick Poll
The Continuing Education Center offers engineers an entirely new way to get the education they need to formulate next-generation solutions.
Jun 24 - 28, Design Your Own Android App
SEMESTERS: 1  |  2  |  3


DN Radio
Sponsored by
NEXT UPCOMING BROADCAST
For industrial control applications, or even a simple assembly line, that machine can go almost 24/7 without a break. But what happens when the task is a little more complex? That’s where the “smart” machine would come in. The smart machine is one that has some simple (or complex in some cases) processing capability to be able to adapt to changing conditions. Such machines are suited for a host of applications, including automotive, aerospace, defense, medical, computers and electronics, telecommunications, consumer goods, and so on. This radio show will show what’s possible with smart machines, and what tradeoffs need to be made to implement such a solution.
Twitter Feed
Design News Twitter Feed
Like Us on Facebook

Sponsored Content

Technology Marketplace

Datasheets.com Parts Search

185 million searchable parts
(please enter a part number or hit search to begin)
Copyright © 2013 UBM Canon, A UBM company, All rights reserved. Privacy Policy | Terms of Service