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For Dassault, 3D Sketch Is a Natural

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Rob Spiegel
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Sketching for industry
Rob Spiegel   12/12/2011 10:06:12 AM
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Nice article, Beth.

You mention this is not designed for the hobbiest. How does it differ? I would imagine a number of facets would be the same. Is it the connectivity to other industrial software tools that separates it from art sketching tools?

Beth Stackpole
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Re: Sketching for industry
Beth Stackpole   12/12/2011 10:26:12 AM
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I'm not saying hobbyists couldn't take advantage of 3D Sketch, but Dassault is positioning it as an extension to their professional 3D modeling tools, specifically as part of a portfolio of products aimed at industrial designers. So in that vein, I'm guessing that it's a pretty robust and powerful application and could be more expensive than a hobbyist is willing to pay. My point was it's not one of these free or several dollars sketch apps that are now found online. This is a serious development tool.

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Rob Spiegel   12/12/2011 12:50:12 PM
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Ok, that makes sense, Beth. This would be more than a hobbiest would need, since it's designed for industrial purposes. Cool tool.

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mechanicalabhinav   12/14/2011 12:08:51 AM
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Hi Rob,

The main difeerence is natural sketch's generic integration with DS PLM, right frm ideation > concept dev. > design > validation > product realisation everything is tightly integrated and the transition is seamless.
I have used it on PC, yet to test it on centiq or othr drawing tablets

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Beth Stackpole   12/14/2011 6:06:40 AM
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@mechanicalabhinav: Sounds like you're an early user of Natural Sketch, so thanks for wading in with your comments. Can you give us some perspective on what you think full integration presents for the typical design workflow?

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mechanicalabhinav   12/14/2011 6:59:32 AM
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@ beth :

Full integration represents the seamless flow of a idea to a mass produced product,

for example, in DS PLM, it can be outlined as below

CATIA natural sketch / imagin and shape - design ideation and conceptualization

CATIA Part/surface/drafting/sheet metal - 3D / 2D design and actual design engineering & validation

SIMULIA - simulation and physical validation { imagine crash test }

DELMIA - production

ENOVIA - interconnecting all of the above ( the PLM, like teamCantre)

So, If you are sketching a spoiler or grab rail , you can actually have it manufactured, without any issue in terms of data transfer and actual engineering validation as everything is inter related and under 1 roof every body , right from industrial designer > marketing > engineer > production can be in resonance.

hope it helps.

Thank you,

Abhinav

Beth Stackpole
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Re: Sketching for industry
Beth Stackpole   12/14/2011 7:52:42 AM
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Perfect explanation, Abhinav. Thanks so much.

Charles Murray
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Charles Murray   12/16/2011 5:37:47 PM
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Thanks for the explanation mechanicalabhinav. So from an engineering perspective, would certain industries be bigger users of this? If so, what industries would they be?

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mechanicalabhinav   12/19/2011 1:06:28 AM
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For sure Automotive Industry would be its main user , followed by fashion and apparel industry.

We also foresee product based companies using it for ideation and concept development.

May be artists too would like to make digital potraits ;)

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Is 3D sketching a new thing?
Ann R. Thryft   12/12/2011 12:35:45 PM
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How cool that portable consumer device capabilities are influencing what's available for engineers. Beth, is 3D sketching new with this product, or has the technology/capability existed before?


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Re: Is 3D sketching a new thing?
Beth Stackpole   12/12/2011 1:40:47 PM
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Ann,

There have definitely been 3D sketching capabilities available, but I think vendors like Dassault are continuously improving and refining the tools so that the process is much more intuitive, akin to sketching with a pencil and paper. Traditionally many of these tools have been much more specialized and hard to use with cryptic interfaces and complex commands. This appears to be very much in keeping with taking the lead from the consumer devices and apps that you mention.

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Ann R. Thryft   12/12/2011 1:50:38 PM
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Thanks, Beth. That situation reminds me of the very early days of computer 2D draw programs. It took what seemed an unconscionably long time for them to become usable by regular people, and much longer for anything an artist would want to use. I'd imagine that doing this in a 3D drawing program would be a much more difficult task.


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Alexander Wolfe   12/12/2011 3:12:06 PM
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Many of the stories Beth wrote during 2011 took forward the meme that CAD is moving/has moved from standalone point products to complete PLM integration. Lately, I'm sensing the beginnings of a second major trend, which is that we seem to be moving to 3D representations as the default, not just on the back end, but on the front end, too. Certainly this Dassault add-on is of a piece with this trend.

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Beth Stackpole   12/13/2011 6:03:54 AM
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Alex: Yes, you are right that CAD has been moving to become less of a standalone tool to be incorporated in a broader PLM and digital prototyping suite. This kind of 3D sketch capability just further extends the suite on the front end, enabling the ideation and industrial design portion of design process which traditionally has happened on napkin sketchs or in standalone, disconnected tools.

The other trend you mention about 3D representations becoming the default--I think that's the newer trend, yet one also percolating for some time. As CAD and PLM tools become easier to use and as the suites stretch with capabilities for non-experts in the software, the 3D digital representation of a product becomes accessible to any one in the product development value chain, which is the end game for true digital prototyping.

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Ann R. Thryft   12/13/2011 12:25:33 PM
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Beth, your comment that 3D representations may be becoming the default is interesting in light of other 3D technology in our industry, for example: 3D models, prototypes and now direct manufacturing in very low volumes, and 3D machine vision. Meanwhile, over in consumer-land, interest in 3D movies and video appears to be growing, if not nearly as fast as studios and other commercial interests would like.


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Beth Stackpole   12/13/2011 2:53:26 PM
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Ann: I think you're definitely on to something. All of the vendors specializing in 3D technologies that I cover (3D design software, 3D printers) have been talking about this "democratization" of 3D technology for years. Led by the popularization of consumer technologies like 3D TV and 3D gaming, I think we may finally be starting to see their predictions coming to fruition.

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Ann R. Thryft   12/13/2011 3:45:29 PM
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Thanks Beth for the confirmation that this *is* a trend. Concurrency of similar-appearing phenomena doesn't always mean they are related phenomena. In this case, sounds like they are.

 


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For engineers?
Charles Murray   12/12/2011 10:01:32 PM
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Seems like a product well-suited to industrial designers. I can easily imagine this product being a hit in the design studios at the auto companies. Does Dassault foresee broad engineering use for this product?

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Beth Stackpole   12/13/2011 6:12:44 AM
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Chuck:

Not sure how broad they see the use case, but they definitely envision it as an integral piece of their suite, particularly the one targeted at industrial designers. It's all about providing soup-to-nuts capabilities so the entire design workflow can be done in the virtual world, enabling all of the product's attributes and variations reflected through each stage of its lifecycle to be accessed and shared as a digital 3D representation.

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Re: For engineers?
Charles Murray   12/13/2011 11:48:37 PM
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Whether targeted at engineers or not, engineers will find ways to use it.

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