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Will Robots Give Jobs or Take Them Away?

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GTOlover
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Fear of losing job is a bit overhyped
GTOlover   7/21/2014 9:05:17 AM
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I read this and it reminds me Charlie and the Chocolate factory (the Johnny Depp one). Remember that Charlie's dad lost his job putting toothpaste caps on because the company bought robots to automate. In the end, Charlie's dad must of got some education and became the robot maintenance guy. It was humurous bit, bit it had a point. Unskilled labor has the choice to become skilled and seek new job opprotunities. Until Skynet becomes self aware, I do not think we have a lot to worry about.

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Re: Fear of losing job is a bit overhyped
Ann R. Thryft   7/21/2014 12:34:39 PM
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The problem with looking at "examples" like that rather silly movie is that they're onesy-twosey and encourage us to think in one-at-a-time scenarios. One person in a movie getting a better job hardly reflects reality on a larger scale. Real statistics and larger patterns like what's being described here--and reflected in the BLS numbers--are trends that involve many people over time. And it's not only unskilled labor that's at risk. This will become clearer in Part Two.

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mrdon   7/21/2014 10:33:32 PM
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Ann

Very interesting article and question. I would think by creating robotics industry that there will be some jobs created such as service/repair to maintain the intelligent machines. Also, the need for roboticists to design them will be another way jobs are created. Although, there are research initiatives occuring where machines are learning to replicate themselves in a laboratory environment, the need for humans to develop the replicating technologies will aid in creating jobs and skillsets for the future. I look forward to reading the next blog on this interesting question.

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Re: Fear of losing job is a bit overhyped
Daniyal_Ali   7/22/2014 3:27:16 AM
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Agreed Ann. In my opinion the Robots would definitely take the jobs away from humans. I agree that humans are very intelligent and can learn almost anything out there, but imagine a person who spent all his life doing one task in an industry and gets really good at it, if he gets replaced by a robot, then even if he learns something new he would not reach the previous level as his life's real job experience has already been wasted.

Let me give you a real life example. The hospital in our city didn't have a computerized system, so the staff was very large as everyone had to handle a task. Now that the hospital has been computerized, the staff is so low you can actually count the total number of people working there. Though computer is just an ordinary machine compared to the highly technical Robots, but if it can produce such an impact, imagine what will happen when those Robots enter the market.

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Debera Harward   7/22/2014 3:29:57 AM
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Thanks Ann for such an interesting article . We cannot come up to any conclusion about whether robots take or give jobs according to me due to the evolution of robots getting and loosing of job occurs simultaneously . Definitely more job for creating , managing and services will be created but on the other hand jobs done by robots will be elimitaed . In one way we can say that more technical and skilled jobs will be created and unskilled jobs will be taken away by robots .

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Debera Harward   7/22/2014 3:33:36 AM
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Danial , I agree on the front end definitely jobs are taken away by robots but on the backend jobs also do increase for example  like we have to create the robots, manage them , repair them , programme tham update them and so on .

A person who is just watching from the front side will definitely say that jobs are taken away bu in reality this is not the scenario .

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Daniyal_Ali   7/22/2014 3:45:10 AM
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I agree, but those jobs would be much lesser in number. Most of the robots won't even need that much assistance. The only job would be to maintain or repair them when needed, but as the technology grows there will be robots that won't need repairing at all, or even if they do it would be a very minute task and very few people would be needed. As far as programming and updating the robots are concerned, that could be done by the on-site engineer already present in the firm and there might not be a need to create a separate slot just to program the robot.

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Re: Fear of losing job is a bit overhyped
GTOlover   7/22/2014 9:15:21 AM
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I think we are limiting are discussions to job for job analysis. The bigger part of the economy is that the jobs created for robotics are highly skilled and better pay. The better pay drives other jobs in other sectors. If I make more money, I stop eating cabbage stew every night and go out eat or buy meat products. this drives more jobs.

Also, on the robotics side, the automation improves productivity and lowers the cost of the manufactured goods or service. This means these items are more easily afforded to the lower income people. Automation and productivity can increase the standard of living for the population.

The factor that unhinges people is those that lose their job and then expect to collect unemployment payments indefinetely. The thought of developing a new skill is foriegn to them (or do not care to try).

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TomBee   7/22/2014 10:01:05 AM
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I had a most disturbing discussion with my best friend from high school. He ranted on about the careless disregard for truck drivers and cabbies being sent to the unemployment line when self-driving cars become generally available. I couldn't persuade him to see that as we reach our senior status in the next 7 years it will be a boon to our generation as we become less capable of safe driving into our 70's, 80's and beyond.

He has a point. However, just as Luddites railed against the mechanization of factories and farms we must prepare our populations to adapt and find their most productive niche in society. Otherwise many of us would still be beasts of burden rather than engineers trying to solve problems.

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Re: Fear of losing job is a bit overhyped
Battar   7/22/2014 10:28:33 AM
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There is a lot of low cost labor in the global market, and it is just not cost effective to replace a 4$-an-hour/60 hours a week worker with a robot which costs $75000 and lasts 5 years. (and thats just one example). Robots will mainly be used in jobs which humans simply cannot do - because of environment, safety, accuracy or speed And no, the Roomba doesn't replace the hired home help, does it? 

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