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Consumer-Grade 3D-Printable Metal Casting Resin

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Ann R. Thryft
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Re: Don't forget the UV Cure and 1200F Oven
Ann R. Thryft   7/15/2014 11:38:54 AM
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Clinton, I'm glad Pete could answer your questions. Thanks, Pete!

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Re: Don't forget the UV Cure and 1200F Oven
CLMcDade   7/14/2014 2:22:34 PM
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Ann, I believe Pete answered most of the open questions in the comments. It was great to have him jump in and participate. Now that I'm sure that it is the models that are being made, this is a major improvement for many jewelers. While I am a fan of hand modeling, there are some shapes that I can create in 3D CAD that I would be hard-pressed to duplicate by hand. This material can allow those concepts to be realized. And duplicated, with ease.

Ann R. Thryft
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Re: Don't forget the UV Cure and 1200F Oven
Ann R. Thryft   7/1/2014 6:31:38 PM
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Thanks for the reply, Pete.
Folks, Pete has offered to answer any other questions you may have on this comments page.

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Re: Don't forget the UV Cure and 1200F Oven
petemadesolid   7/1/2014 5:23:37 PM
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Hey there all! Maybe I can help clarify a few things.

Many of our initial customers are folks who are already making jewelry. They have an oven and other machines necessary to make a good cast. They are happy because the initial capital needed to integrate 3D printing into their shop is significantly lowered with FireCast Resin.

The difference is a lot of jewelers are still using wax figures and casting those. With lower priced machines (Take a look at the LittleDLPer for $900), you are able to print figures that will replace the wax part. This opens the door for many folks who are already casting to use 3D printing to a) bring down costs b) do intricate designs that would otherwise be very difficult to do by hand.

This isn't about making RTV Molds. You could do that with our normal resin as no burnout is required.

For folks who do not have a set up to do casting, they would have to work with a caster to do the process. Some customers are happy printing their design and shipping it to get casted else where.

 

 

Ann R. Thryft
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Re: Don't forget the UV Cure and 1200F Oven
Ann R. Thryft   7/1/2014 5:01:20 PM
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DVanditmars, there's more than one comparison being made here. The one you address is actually between a) someone who already owns a UV-curable 3D printing system, or buys one for under $5,000, plus buys this material for $400/liter, and b) someone who already owns or buys a high-end $20,000 UV-curable 3D printing system plus buys that machine-specific material for $600/liter. That's a big price difference. Both of these people would have to take their cast to a foundry. I've asked MadeSolid to clarify what the cost of the cast-making oven is, and who owns that, which is a good question.  



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Re: Another step toward an open materials market
Greg M. Jung   6/29/2014 12:48:29 PM
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CLMcDade, I agree with you.  While the prices of the resin are still somewhat high, jewelry makers should be able to recover this cost from the market space that they are in.

CLMcDade
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Re: Another step toward an open materials market
CLMcDade   6/27/2014 6:15:11 PM
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Hi Ann,

Maybe because it's late Friday, but I'm a little confused about what they are making with the technology.  

Because they are emphasizing the burnout efficiency, it sounds like they are making the model of which a cast is being made.

But with the switching of use of "cast" from noun to verb, it also sounds like they are making the cast itself (aka the mold) out of this material.  But if that were the case, the burnout wouldn't be a rating factor.

In either case, there is definitely a benefit to be reaped by jewelry makers.  However,  I think some of them would take exception to the "...finer degree of resolution with 3D printers that you can't achieve when making models by hand."  : )

DVanditmars
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Don't forget the UV Cure and 1200F Oven
DVanditmars   6/27/2014 3:58:09 PM
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To get started on would need  a UV cure light and associated box filters and timers.  Then what looks like a programable oven that can go to at least 1200F.  What kind of investment $ would this be?  I am thinking this will be close to the $20K quoted for a single manufacturer's machine...

Ann R. Thryft
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Re: Another step toward an open materials market
Ann R. Thryft   6/27/2014 11:04:07 AM
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Lou, I agree--the open materials market for 3D printing seems to be starting at the consumer end, but that can still help the same overall, thus influencing the higher industrial end. Do you have any thought son this particular material for investment casting, like what it could be used for besides jewelry?

Cabe Atwell
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Re: Another step toward an open materials market
Cabe Atwell   6/27/2014 3:21:27 AM
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Saw the prices... scrolled on. We will have to wait for that to come down for sure.

 

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