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NASA Starts Biofuel Flight Tests

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Ann R. Thryft
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Ann R. Thryft   3/13/2013 4:41:44 PM
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Thanks for the clarification. I agree that it's good to see some useful and practical R&D coming out of the agency. I can imagine that it's taken quite awhile to recover from not only the staffing cuts, but what they represented in terms of institutional knowledge lost.

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sensor pro   3/13/2013 1:07:47 PM
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Whet I ment by wasteful PR is a waste of time that NASA is spending on glorifying the contribution of other nations to space exploration. The waste of time to be politically correct.  If we compare new developments coming out from NASA now to lets say 15 years ago, it is not even close. They lost huge number or engineers and scientists during the cuts of 2 and 3 years ago. I still remember that they coul not find the engineering team to fix the oxygen problem on the space station because they were let go three month earlier. !!!!

Im happy to see some movement on the development side from NASA.

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Ann R. Thryft   3/13/2013 12:49:03 PM
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sensor pro, not sure what you mean by wasteful PR. The OMEGA project was not just PR--it was real R&D and had some good results. Although I don't believe it was aimed at jet fuel, whereas this one is. Or did you mean something else?



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Ann R. Thryft   3/13/2013 12:46:25 PM
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Mydesign, this one is based on the camelina plant, as we say in the article. It's another relative of mustard and canola, in the Brassica family of plants, and also related to the oilseed plant the Canadians are using in a 100% biofuel jet fuel. The NASA fuel being tested, however, is a 50-50 blend with regular, petro-based JP-8 jet fuel.

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sensor pro   3/13/2013 11:42:04 AM
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I totally agree with you, It is refreshing to see that they actually doing some useful research instead of waistful public relations.

Hope they find something useful.

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Elizabeth M   3/13/2013 5:41:07 AM
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You're probably right, Mydesign, but hey, whatever works. As long as they are researching ways to replace gasoline and oil-based fuels with more environmentally friendly, fuel-efficient options, it's all the kind of work that needs to be done, and quickly.

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Mydesign   3/13/2013 4:01:53 AM
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Elizebeth, I think instead of fully depending up on a particulate type of fuel source, they have to look for hybrid mode of fuels like a combination of solar & bio & gasoline type.

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Mydesign   3/13/2013 3:59:37 AM
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Ann, that's good initiative from NASA, a pioneer in R&D. I think most of such innovations are coming from NASA and various other defence labs. Once after proving the technology, it's finally transferring to public for addressing common issues. Any idea what's are the ingredients of bio fuel?

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Elizabeth M   3/12/2013 4:05:59 PM
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Ah well, yes, much better to focus on something that might actually become a widely used biofuel in the future. It's good to see NASA focusing like that. Not surprising they are being a bit hush hush about the whole thing. It is NASA, after all. Will definitely look forward to future developments here.

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Ann R. Thryft   3/12/2013 1:02:21 PM
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You're welcome, Elizabeth. I know the military has done research in this area, as you'/ve covered for DN, but the only NASA work I'd seen before this was the OMEGA algae biofuel project. They seem to be playing it pretty close to the vest regarding what they are or aren't planning to actually use, or why they choose one plant source over the other. But the fact that the EPA just listed this one as a qualifier under the RFS program indicates to me that they may be moving from the wide range of R&D to working on stuff that's got a higher probability of being used.

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