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Report: Gasification R&D Focuses on Non-Recycled Plastics
11/26/2013

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The potential energy value of US non-recycled plastics (NRPs) compared to fossil fuel energy sources shows that NRPs have a higher energy value than coke and coal, as measured in BTUs per lb.   (Source: Gershman, Brickner & Bratton/Columbia University Earth Engineering Center)
The potential energy value of US non-recycled plastics (NRPs) compared to fossil fuel energy sources shows that NRPs have a higher energy value than coke and coal, as measured in BTUs per lb.
(Source: Gershman, Brickner & Bratton/Columbia University Earth Engineering Center)

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Jerry dycus
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Jerry dycus   12/2/2013 7:17:55 AM
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Apparently your mind is made up and no longer have the ability to learn, think critically.

Ethanol and 5% water is much cheaper as that last 5% of water is  energy intensive. No?  Maybe you should ask questions that keep putting up such misinformation.

Actually alcohol fire to a large degree are worse as you can't see the flames. No?  Maybe you should read up on ethanol racing as you post shows just how wrong your knowledge is as it's almost always been used to increase performance. No?

  Good luck, you'll need it William.  Hard to see you as a designer or engineer as so often wrong on the things you post time and time again. Maybe do some research before posting would be smart.  google is your friend, use it.

William K.
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William K.   11/30/2013 6:08:22 PM
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There is a lot more to controlling heat than just a thermostat, just as there is a lot more to lighting a light than the switch.

The problem with the alcohol water mix is that I am paying a lot more for that water when I should be getting fuel.

And racers use it because it is a lot safer when they crash and burn. Gasoline fires are intensely unpleasant. 

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a.saji   11/30/2013 11:28:47 AM
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@Pubudu: Great thought but still you have to be wise here. Waste management has to be properly taken care of. If not it will be an utter waste in the end.   

a.saji
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a.saji   11/30/2013 11:27:37 AM
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@Pubudu: Yes waste management is important but not everyone can do it.  

a.saji
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a.saji   11/30/2013 11:26:56 AM
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@bob: Most of the scientific movies are made of real lives. Also these movies do give new and innovative ideas for the viewers. It's a good thing indeed.                                  

Jerry dycus
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Jerry dycus   11/30/2013 6:25:14 AM
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  Care to mention why controlled heat is expensive? Just doesn't make sense as so easy to do in so many ways.  Ever hear of a thermostat?. Insulation, radiator?  Are they very expensive?

Having a no waste/emissions to speak of EPA wise as it would be a closed sysytem.  Sorry but it looks like you are making up stuff.

Again I don't think racers  would use a terrible fuel would they? Fact is you can get more power from ethanol than gasoline with lower emissions as ethanol burns much cooler so the compression, eff starts getting into diesel  territory, No?  And higher compression is more eff, no? Again you are making stuff up. Why?

Personally I want 95% ethanol and 5% water as a fuel, lower energy to make, and burns clean and cool.  You don't know that?

I guess you don't understand the propaganda of lies put out by big oil against both ethanol and EV's as biofuels and EV's scare them to death. And they are right to be worried as ethanol has already cut deeply into their profits both replacing oil and cutting the price oil can get. 

Myself I've never seen a car with an ethanol caused problems since the first couple yrs of older ones and even then was rare as all US car since 73? are required to use E10. The way people talk how bad it is yet where are all the problems in US cars? 

There really isn't much reason all car engine shouldn't burn any combo of ethanol, methanol, NGL, etc. They already are made by GM, Ford, etc in Brazil, etc.

Whether you like it or not in 20 yrs oil will be too expensive to burn and coal, NG in 30 yrs.  Isn't it the time to switch to sustainable fuels?  Actually it'll happen no matter what.  The only question is if we do it right or badly like you seem to want.

Again I drive my EV's at 25% of a gas version total costs. I'd like near pure ethanol for the range extending generator the few times it's needed.

Do you research anything you post? Can you think critically? From your posts it doesn't show.

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Pubudu   11/30/2013 2:31:59 AM
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Yes everything has a cost and these days' costs matter more than any other days. But when it comes to west management future of the earth for the sake of living is matter than costs. So its need to have the government or the nun-profit making organizations involvement in these projects. 

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Pubudu   11/30/2013 2:26:33 AM
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True far911 I always believe that someone's west will be another man's treasure. Its matter of thinking out of the box. If the formula found it will be a gold mind. 

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Pubudu   11/30/2013 2:20:48 AM
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True Rob it's a great thought, it is very necessary to use those, unless those will remain years and years and will be added daily.

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William K.   11/29/2013 11:45:38 PM
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Heat for evaporating plastics needs to be controlled, and controlled heat is expensive. The equipment to do it and satisfy the EPA is expensive as well.

It must be nice to be able to make up facts to back up opinions.

Ethanol is a lousy fuel for gasoline engines. It may work, sort of, but it also allows the addition of water to the gas, and watered gas is less efficient and delivers a lot less power for my money. Ethanol in gas is not my choice, but the liberals ram it to us without any options. If it is so very good for us, as you claim, then make it an option. If people want it they will choose it. If they don't want it then they won't choose it. And tell us the truth about who bribed congress into mandating it, because nobody else wanted it.

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