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Drop Your Phone in the Sink – We Dare You
1/29/2013

UK-based P2i has developed a waterproof nano-coating that protects smartphones such as the Alcatel One Touch, and Motorola's RAZR and XOOM. We think the company should develop the technology for consumers who want to apply it to the devices they already own.   (Source: P2i)
UK-based P2i has developed a waterproof nano-coating that protects smartphones such as the Alcatel One Touch, and Motorola's RAZR and XOOM. We think the company should develop the technology for consumers who want to apply it to the devices they already own.
(Source: P2i)

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Ann R. Thryft
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Re: Excellent Application!
Ann R. Thryft   2/12/2013 5:03:47 PM
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I'm inclined to think that it's highly likely from what I've read, plus for two additional reasons: one is concerned communications engineers talking off record to me about this problem back in the very early days of cell phone design (mid- and late 1990s). The second is the fact that the CTIA managed to get federal legislation passed to make it illegal to complain about/sue cell phone companies based on health reasons.

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Re: It is about time!
Ann R. Thryft   2/8/2013 1:16:37 PM
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Elizabeth, sounds like you really lucked out there. That's more value than what I got out of MS after a customer service mess, which wasn't inconsiderable: around $400 worth, or more.



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Re: Mobile water proofing
Ann R. Thryft   2/6/2013 12:00:57 PM
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Mydesign, thanks, that would be great. I'd like to find out more.

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Mydesign   2/5/2013 10:40:16 PM
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Ann sorry, I don't have any link. I had seen it in one of the telecom exhibition. I have their brochure and business card, I will check and update you about the company website and product name.

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Re: Excellent Application!
Ann R. Thryft   2/1/2013 2:58:34 PM
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There's a lot of evidence of links between cell phone and other wireless radiation and cancer. There are also lots of studies that conclude the opposite. The subject is highly politicized, and there are way too many studies with radically different research designs to make them easy to compare, or to make this a quick, easy-to-grasp subject. The bottom line is we don't know but there's a possibility, and one that could affect millions of people.

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Ann R. Thryft   2/1/2013 11:50:33 AM
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Chuck, that's my understanding of the definitions, also. That's why I queried the use of the term "immersion." How complete the "immersion" is, and how long it takes place, are key. I agree, this coating appears to make the item water resistant.

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Charles Murray   1/31/2013 7:14:32 PM
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I had to go to the Internet (uh-oh) to find out the difference between waterproof and water-resistant. The prevailing logic seems to be that a waterproof product prevents water from coming in at all, even when submerged (think of a diving watch). Water resistant (here's wher the definition seems to get fuzzy) describes the ability to repel water, up to a point. Given those descriptions, I would assume this material makes the phone water-resistant.

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Ann R. Thryft   1/31/2013 2:03:23 PM
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Jenn, that would be retrofitting, which we were discussing earlier in the comments. So far, we haven't seen any plans for that, but it sure sounds like a great idea. OTOH, as someone pointed out, those refrigerator-sized machines may be on the pricey side for an operation like Kinko's. And that's an entirely different business model from selling the coating to a company like Motorola. I was expressing more of a wish than a prediction.

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Ann R. Thryft   1/31/2013 11:55:27 AM
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Mydesign, that sounds very intriguing. Can you give us links or more info?

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Drop your Phone in the Sink
apresher   1/31/2013 9:13:21 AM
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Good points on water proof versus water resistant.  Dropping your phone in the sink creates a different technical problem that running through a brief rainstorm.

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