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Yes, This Was Really on Display at Hanover Fair
4/24/2013

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For starters, I think the folks at Phoenix Contact have taken the concept of a 'green car' just a bit too far.
For starters, I think the folks at Phoenix Contact have taken the concept of a “green car” just a bit too far.

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jhankwitz
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Re: Huggable car
jhankwitz   4/25/2013 5:16:29 PM
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The more energy captured, the more energy needed to be provided by the dancers.  Yes, they could make it a very stiff floor, but they would capture very little energy.  So, it becomes a matter of how much extra energy dancers are willing to provide.  It will be hard to balance the two to get maximum return on investment.

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William K.   4/25/2013 4:30:55 PM
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jhankwitz, I made a similar comment on a different blog just a while back. Whar we don't know is how much the floor actually deflects, which would be the major way that dancers would observe the energy being captured. If the deflectio is very small, say less than 0.025 inches, or so, probably it would just be taken as a slightly cusioned floor. But if the flex were a lot more, say 0.125 inches, then it would certainly be quite obvious and it would feel like a drag. So what we need is more information. And while it may work very well in dry weather, it is not so clear how the sidewalk would survive in our slushy salty southeastern Michigan winters. Of course, any energy capyture mechanism does need to last a while, so durability really matters.

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Re: Huggable car
Rob Spiegel   4/25/2013 12:31:39 PM
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I agree on wanting to see these examples of new technology in action, Nadine. If these technologies meet their PR promises, they could make some very positive changes. I expect that many of the new technologies we're seeing on the Design News site will find positive real-world applications.

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Re: Or maybe they are trying to make a point...
J. Williams   4/25/2013 11:37:03 AM
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Instead of using a Beetle they should have used one of those old two seater V-dubs, then you could call it a Chia Ghia.  ;-)

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Or maybe they are trying to make a point...
kf2qd   4/25/2013 10:45:14 AM
Maybe Pheonix Contact is trying to make a point. The use of "Green" for many things that obviously aren't. And some of the hated non-green things have a much smaller footprint over their lifespan than do the "green" things. Green has become a sales buzzword and really means nothing. It is used to push many impractical "technologies" rather than to make a real difference.

 

How many of our supposed "Green" projects are really just an excuse to collect a subsidy, and really have very little "green" benefit?
 Is it really "green" or is it just a way on getting the public to give mw money so I can play with the latest fad???

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jhankwitz   4/25/2013 9:59:02 AM
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Dancers would avoid an energy dance floor because it would drain too much of their energy.  Basic Physics states that you can't get something for nothing.  Dancing on this floor would be like jogging on a sandy beach instead of hard pavement. 

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A different green car from Phoenix Contact
Jim_E   4/25/2013 9:18:38 AM
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I prefer the Green 1970 El Camino that Phoenix Contact did:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5LIAV6R-t4

http://www.deskeng.com/articles/aaasgb.htm

It was at an engineering open house that I went to last year.  It has a nice setup for tailgate partying.  :)

 

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far911   4/25/2013 2:29:19 AM
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I believe the idea was to reduce environmental pollution. Isn't that what "green" usually refers to? 

Conversion from mechanical-to-electric is an old practice and we see this examplified in car batteries. 

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Mydesign   4/25/2013 1:57:16 AM
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Rich, the idea of green car is diluted by green color. Whether it can save energy and minimizes the environmental pollutions? The piezo electric effect (converting mechanical energy to electric) is so common and now a day's such appliances are deployed in public places.



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Hanover Fair
apresher   4/24/2013 5:24:02 PM
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Rich,  Definitely missed a few of these during the Fair.  But definitely remember the VW bug.  Thanks.

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