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Ann R. Thryft
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Re: Union elections
Ann R. Thryft   2/8/2013 11:52:32 AM
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Foxconn is about to purchase enormous amounts of robots, so there may not be much of a union left after that:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/01/us-foxconn-robots-idUSTRE77016B20110801

Ann R. Thryft
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Re: Oxymoron of politician and keeping a promise
Ann R. Thryft   2/8/2013 1:11:08 PM
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Nancy, I'm more likely to research online and then buy locally, when possible, for the reasons you mention. Paying a bit more is not a problem in my mind. And it's not always more, anyhow, when you include the cost of shipping for online purchases. Then there's customer service. If I can get it locally, that's usually a better option, in my experience.

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Re: Oxymoron of politician and keeping a promise
Nancy Golden   2/8/2013 3:52:33 PM
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I agree Ann, especially when it comes to exchanges. While buying online is often tempting, the product often arrives damaged or is subpar for some other reason - then you have the additional hassle and expense of shipping returns. However, some items are just hard to find locally and in that event, it is a blessing to have the online option...

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Re: Oxymoron of politician and keeping a promise
Cabe Atwell   2/8/2013 4:01:56 PM
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Another quote: USA was $5600, China was $765

Bringing work back home may never happen. The USA fought hard for human/worker rights. People died over it. Now, those same corporations who fought against those rights, ship jobs off to places were abuse is fine. At home, consumers expect a low price of good, that only labor abuse can bring.

Foxconn, or whoever, can unionize, they will just find another place where the work is cheap. Other parts of Asia, then India, back to Mexico. When everyone fights back, they will industrialize places like the Congo.

In a global economy, does it really matter?

C

Nancy Golden
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Nancy Golden   2/8/2013 4:05:39 PM
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Interesting article, Ann. I found the quote regarding Chinese manufacturing "Of course some companies will consider moving their manufacturing overseas, but it's easier said than done when the supply chain is here" highly ironic...what a shift from the past - and Mexico?!

How tragic about the suicides that have been occurring. But is it really Foxconn's desire to move asssembly line workers into R&D and other innovative positions which is what the article mentions is their goal with the advent of robots? Not every worker aspires to get off the line and what any employee wants is a safe work place and a fair wage. Another question also comes to mind - will there even enough positions for the soon to be displaced workers?

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Re: Oxymoron of politician and keeping a promise
Nancy Golden   2/8/2013 4:16:48 PM
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It always matters, Cabe. It's just how willing are we to recognize that human rights apply to all people in all places and to do something about it regardless of the hit to our pocketbooks. But then, Jesus was betrayed for thirty pieces of silver so what can we expect when millions are at stake - it seems the thirst for money will always be the downfall of man.

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Re: Oxymoron of politician and keeping a promise
Cabe Atwell   2/8/2013 4:30:01 PM
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Nancy,

If prices jumped up to USA worker made standards, the country would have a fit.

What I am thinking is that we all suffer from a sense of entitlement. A friend of mine, who has been out of work for some time, refuses to take a job where they will get dirty for low wages. Illegals, another abuse group of workers, are willing to take those jobs.

 

I think we are all dooms to work in the service industry. I, for one, enjoyed being a waiter in my youth – so I will be ok with it.

C

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Nancy Golden   2/8/2013 4:40:56 PM
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Cabe, I think you are right on the mark with your observation about "entitlement" attitudes in the U.S. - we have really lost our work ethic in this present generation. If people think they are entitled to be provided for, they certainly won't care about how other people are being treated.

My working career began with a paper route, progressed to fast food service, grocery store checker, faculty assistant to help pay for college, retail clerk on weekends while engineering tech during the week, to engineer, to engineering manager. Today, everyone kid thinks they should start at engineering manager...

I agree, sometimes the service industry is very enticing.

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Re: All I can say is: I certainly hope so!
bobjengr   2/11/2013 6:01:21 PM
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Nancy--I agree completely with you one this one.  I don't know if I have just had a run of bad luck lately but just about every consumer product I have purchased, especially the electro-mechanical products, have been "off-quality".  Two were DOA right out of the box.  The merchandisers give my money back or substitute for another but even then it's a real pain.   In dealing with off-shore suppliers, we noticed their first piece products were excellent but then, after production was initiated, the quality dropped significantly.  I'm talking about PC boards, ribbon cables, Mylar overlays, etc etc.  Products that should represent a high degree of quality are really junk when they come over.  It get old fast.  I do quality control work for a Southeastern client and it is not unusual to have 30 percent dropout on Mylar products coming from China.  The biggest problem is you can't talk to these vendors and get your point across.   We have problems and need relief.

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Re: All I can say is: I certainly hope so!
Nancy Golden   2/11/2013 6:36:55 PM
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Even in our local stores we are seeing this problem, Bob. We bought some incandescent light bulbs from Home Depot the other day and when we plugged them in, some went "pop" and the filament opened - just out of the box!

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