Indignation With Taking Liberties

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Re: Taking liberties and wire numbers.
tekochip   11/16/2012 9:32:45 AM
You're right about asking the factory floor to tell you if it doesn't look right.  I invite everyone to tell me their impressions on a new design.  If a screw is hard to access, if something is difficult to service, or even, "gee, we used to have a wire that was this color, can we change it?"  Of course you can't design by committee, and that's a terrible trap to fall into, but you can design a product that's built for production, service and the customer.  There's a hidden agenda, too.  I found that Production, Purchasing and Service would issue Engineering Change Notifications to alter product attributes to their preference.  What's worse is that the ECNs would be signed off by Production Engineering and Development Engineering had no way of knowing what was changed.  Sure enough, substandard parts would be substituted by Purchasing, and Production would stream-line a process that destroyed product integrity. 
If you can get the other departments input during the prototype stage you can tell them why a component or process is specified.

Dave Palmer
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Re: Taking liberties and wire numbers.
Dave Palmer   11/16/2012 11:36:35 AM
@tekochip: That sounds like a bad ECR approval process, if design engineering had no input (or if production engineering could substitute for design engineering -- along the lines of, "If dad says no, go ask mom.")

I have found, through painful experience, the importance of having a well-thought-out process for approval of ECRs and deviation requests.  At one place I worked, approval to use non-conforming parts only required the signature of one engineer -- any engineer -- and there was no documentation of the non-conformance other than "OK TO USE PER [ENGINEER'S NAME HERE]."

One engineer (who had a master's degree from MIT, and was not a dumb guy by any means) would sign these requests without even reading them.

Cabe Atwell
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Re: Taking liberties and wire numbers.
Cabe Atwell   11/21/2012 3:24:53 PM

It comes down to laziness, going home early, taking the path of least resistance. Even if you pay people more, they will only care for a little bit. Hence, future raises.

Scaring employees into working hard is how Apple and some other companies keep their engineers working diligently. Otherwise, more will try to find a place to nap on the job. I should know, found some nappers under their desks.


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