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Startup Devises Liquid Metal Batteries for the Electricity Grid
2/26/2013

David Bradwell (left) and Donald Sadoway are co-founders of Ambri, a Cambridge, Mass.-based startup that is developing a liquid-based battery they hope will be the foundation for the next-generation electricity grid.   (Source: MIT)
David Bradwell (left) and Donald Sadoway are co-founders of Ambri, a Cambridge, Mass.-based startup that is developing a liquid-based battery they hope will be the foundation for the next-generation electricity grid.
(Source: MIT)

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William K.
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Re: Liquid Metal?
William K.   2/27/2013 10:28:10 PM
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While the chemistry may be very effective, keeping that much material that hot is going to require a bit of heating power and some very good insulation. So the practical utilization of the concept is a real challenge. Possibly use an atomic reactor to keep it hot, but what effect would the intense radiation have on the system? In summary, "it works in theory, but will it ever be practical." Keeping metals melted is a hot task indeed.

Greg M. Jung
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Re: Risk Minerals
Greg M. Jung   2/27/2013 7:54:15 PM
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Good strategy.  I'm glad that other minerals (that are be more available) could also produce results with this technology.

Charles Murray
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Re: Liquid Metal?
Charles Murray   2/27/2013 7:42:26 PM
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You're right on the money, ttemple. I think Ambri specifies 400-700 degrees C.

ttemple
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Liquid Metal?
ttemple   2/27/2013 12:13:44 PM
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If I'm reading this correctly, the entire contents of the battery is in a liquid state.  To liquify antimony and magnesium requires approximately 1200 degrees F.  So, this battery is at that temperature to function?

Hey, what's in that 40' trailer over there?  Oh, just 80,000 lbs of liquified metal.  Is that a problem?

 

Elizabeth M
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Re: Exciting if its potential can be realized
Elizabeth M   2/27/2013 5:08:30 AM
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I didn't know Gates was an investor, Chuck! Well, it sounds like something he would go for...but I don't know if he's still contributing. Anyone else know? I'll look it up online and see...

Elizabeth M
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Elizabeth M   2/27/2013 4:41:10 AM
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Great, thanks for the link, Chuck. Sadoway seems like a bit of a rock star...definitely a brilliant mind and this would be great if it really lived up to the potential, as I said before. I just think it's cool there are some big minds trying to tackle these problems, and he seems very passionate about it.

Elizabeth M
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Elizabeth M   2/27/2013 4:23:07 AM
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You have a valid concern, Greg, and I imagine the founders of Ambri saw it that way, too. They're now using a different chemistry for the battery that has a similar result. Perhaps they ran into the antimony problem as well! I am not sure they are disclosing the battery chemistry (probably for IP reasons). I think the new chemistry is more cost effective and higher voltage (I mention it in the story). Thanks!

Charles Murray
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Re: Exciting if its potential can be realized
Charles Murray   2/26/2013 7:35:51 PM
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Liz, is Bill Gates still one of the investors in this technology?

Charles Murray
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Charles Murray   2/26/2013 7:32:55 PM
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By the way, Donald Sadoway talked about this technology on the Colbert Report in October.

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/420372/october-22-2012/donald-sadoway

Charles Murray
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Re: Exciting if its potential can be realized
Charles Murray   2/26/2013 7:31:21 PM
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I agree, Liz. This is exciting, largely because energy storage will be sorely needed if wind and solar are to make a big contribution to the grid.

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