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Video: Crowdsourcing App Helps Space Agency Improve Robots
3/28/2013

A free iPhone video game app turns your Parrot AR.Drone into a simulated spacecraft, which you can use to simulate docking on the International Space Station. You get points for accuracy and speed, and the European Space Agency gets tons of data to help make better space robots.   (Source: European Space Agency/Anneke Le Floc'h)
A free iPhone video game app turns your Parrot AR.Drone into a simulated spacecraft, which you can use to simulate docking on the International Space Station. You get points for accuracy and speed, and the European Space Agency gets tons of data to help make better space robots.
(Source: European Space Agency/Anneke Le Floc'h)

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Cabe Atwell
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Re: Crowdsourcing to gain docking data???
Cabe Atwell   4/9/2013 5:54:36 PM
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Quick questions for all: do you know anyone who participates in crowdsourcing?

I do not... It must take a special type of person to help for free...

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William K.   4/5/2013 4:55:58 PM
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Ann, thanks for pointing out that thye links had additional useful information. Unfortunately for me, I guess, is that I seldom follow links placed in articles, partly because some of those links have been quite slow in the past.

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Ann R. Thryft   4/5/2013 12:07:47 PM
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William, there's more detail about what the researchers are doing, and plan to do, in the links we gave in the article, including a list of references at the end of the AI project article
There's also a list of publications by the Advanced Concepts Team here:
http://www.esa.int/gsp/ACT/publications/index.htm

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Ann R. Thryft   4/5/2013 12:07:10 PM
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Cabe, if you're responding to my comment, "that didn't take much motivation," I meant that people who have already invested $300 in the AR.Drone--not small change if you ask me--therefore don't need much motivation to use it in this crowdsourcing app. You had said that getting people to participate might be problematic, especially if they weren't paid.  But dedicated gamers like these don't need an excuse to play.



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Cabe Atwell   4/5/2013 2:05:50 AM
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$300 not a big deal? I think I need 2nd job. I'm hemming and hawing over buying a new phone for $200.

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Crowdsourcing to gain docking data???
William K.   4/4/2013 7:55:50 PM
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It seems that somehow the data created as various folks attempt to dock at a simulated space station is somehow going to be useful. Right??? But the game will certainly obtain lots of data, for sure. But the main value of data is created when it is condensed into knowledge, and the value of knowledge is that it can lead to insight and understanding. Exactly how that happens in this situation is not completely clear to me just yet.

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Ann R. Thryft   4/3/2013 12:43:20 PM
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Which is why, no doubt, ESA has approached gamers who already own a $300 AR.Drone. That didn't take much motivation.

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Cabe Atwell   4/2/2013 11:25:42 PM
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Relying on "crowdsourcing" is not a fast moving option. Depending if people are paid or not, work takes a while to push through. People either have to absolutely love the product or company or get paid to help a product along...

Or in the immortal word of one Internet meme "Ain't nobody got time for that!"

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Ann R. Thryft   4/1/2013 11:54:48 AM
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Chuck, I understand the fear. I've read a ton of science fiction since age 11, so I probably have some of the same worries you do about the Robot Takeover and the War with the Machines (oops, wrong universe). At least I'll probably be long gone if that happens.

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Ann R. Thryft   4/1/2013 11:51:23 AM
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The main point of crowdsourcing is big numbers, so lots of data. In this case, ESA has designed the app to motivate players to do an excellent job, thus providing the type of data they want, i.e., what are the best ways to approach Object A reliably with millions of copies of Object B, in turn learning methods that can be taught to other robots.

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