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The ‘Holy Grail’ for Lithium-Based Batteries

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Elizabeth M
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Elizabeth M   8/27/2014 8:43:38 AM
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I'm not sure, Chuck, but I can check it out. It was my understanding when I wrote that article that he was still involved.

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Elizabeth M   8/27/2014 7:40:23 AM
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Yes, Chuck, you're the expert here and have been watching this space far longer than me. So if you are only very cautiously optimistic about this, then so should everyone be. Not to take away, of course, from the work researchers are doing, but as you say, this won't affect anything commercially for awhile. But still, you have to start somewhere and there is so much work being done in this area now, we should see something make it to market soon-ish, I hope.

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Charles Murray   8/22/2014 5:15:24 PM
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Liz, I find it interesting that former Energy Secretary Steven Chu worked on this battery technology. Sounds like he has returned to Stanford. Do you know if he is now continuing to work on this development?

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Charles Murray   8/21/2014 6:51:27 PM
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I agree with you on both counts, Liz. Yes, this could be a huge breakthrough. And, yes, I'm also skeptical of this having any meaning, especially for electric cars, any time soon. We could easily go back as far as 1993, when Energy Conversion Devices said that its nickel-metal hydride battery could take an electric car 250-300 miles, recharge in 15 minutes and have a very low production cost. It doesn't always happen as fast as we'd like. As important as battery research is -- and it is very, very important -- it's best to keep the results in perspective. Many more years of development and testing are likely to follow.

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Elizabeth M   8/20/2014 6:48:31 AM
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I know, with all the battery stories I've written over the past two years I keep waiting to see when some of this technology will hit the market. And so far, I haven't seen any of it. But it does take time, although you're right, Daniyal, in that battery research seems to move painfully slow. Perhaps you're also right that these things will start to take shape soon and we'll realize where this was all going.

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Elizabeth M   8/20/2014 6:16:21 AM
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Your project sounds fascinating, bobjengr. Will be interested to hear more about it as it nears completion. So of course you know from personal experience, these things take a lot of time, and it is sometimes like reinventing the wheel. I wish you a lot of luck as you continue with this green battery; it sounds like something that could be beneficial to the environment and the industry.

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Daniyal_Ali   8/20/2014 1:43:43 AM
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I agree Liz. Fast research in batteries is our desperate need right now, and it's ironic that the process is actually quite slow. A lot of renewable sources also depend directly on the battery storage and this affects a lot of fields simultaneously. But i still am confident to feel that things are coming quite close as the research progresses, and the process might get fast at some point.

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bobjengr   8/19/2014 7:10:32 PM
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Very interesting Elizabeth.  One of the projects I have undertaken over the past four (4) years is the design of a "green battery".  I'm working the project with a chemist.  We say the battery is "Environmentally Safe Electrolyte Additive--Alkaline Based Secondary Storage Batteries".  Our main objective was to provide a battery that would be acceptable for disposal without special provisions being made.   I say this only to indicate that I was definitely behind the curve relative to battery design and what might be future advancements.  In short, I had to go back to school.  With that in mind, the development you indicate with your post is HUGE.  Great breakthrough. As you mention, the design is probably months if not years away from commercialization.  Many tests to be performed prior to approvals granted.  It's exciting at any rate.  Thank you so much for the very informative post. 

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Holy Grail?
Elizabeth M   8/19/2014 6:12:59 AM
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While I don't doubt this type of breakthrough will be good for battery research, I've written enough about efforts in this area to be skeptical that this will mean much for the type of batteries being used in the very near future. This type of work takes a lot of time to test and prove before it makes it out of the lab. I'm not discrediting this breakthrough--I think it's good progress. But it will be awhile before it's of some real use to the public at large.

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