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Bearacade Aimed at Securing Classrooms

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Elizabeth M
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Re: You need a really good door!
Elizabeth M   6/25/2014 5:32:59 AM
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This is a good point, g-whiz, thanks for your comment. I wouldn't know for sure about the type of doors this protects, not having seen the product. I think designers and people using it are just hoping it would somehow help deter a shooter at least from entering if it's not so easy to enter. Of course, cowering in fear and waiting to see if a potential threat enters a room is not an optimal situation (nor is having this threat exist in the first place). It's all quite unfortunate no matter how you look at it, and I guess people are just trying to come up with the best solutions they can for a problem that itself needs to be addressed.

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BEAR acade?
William K.   6/24/2014 5:25:10 PM
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My first thought, as I read the title, was that I must have missed the BEAR problem in schools. The product woulkd indeed probably discourage most bears.

But the very first thing that such a product would do is help to raise the ambient fear level some amount.

Consider that most schools never experience a shooting or any other sort of problems. And then consider that the same device would keep law enforcement people out if it were used to barricade a room. And I know that in some high schools they would be used to lock the door by kids who would then exit via the window. So just like a lot of possibly useful things, it would likely have unintended consequences if it were deployed.

But it may be a fairly well designed item that will make the manufacturer a bunch of money.

One last thought is that the hole for thye anchor pin would probably fill with dust and dirt in a fairly short time, and then the device would not work. 

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Charles Murray   6/24/2014 4:55:36 PM
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I agree with you on all counts, Liz. It is indeed a very scary sign of the times that something like this is necessary. The problem is, behaviorists could study this for decades and still not understand all the reasons, the warning signs, and the preventative measures needed to ensure complete safety from these kinds of tragedies. This hopefully provides some measure of improved safety.

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Doesn't this promote the problem?
Keithfeldt   6/24/2014 2:02:36 PM
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Installing this device, "Like a fire extinguisher, the Bearacade is mounted on a wall near the interior door of a classroom," would serve as an advertisement - a constant reminder of school shootings.  Unfortunately, this device will only promote school shootings.  Furthermore, the manufacturer probably knows this and is counting on irrational fear and political reaction to line their pockets. 

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Re: You need a really good door!
J. Williams   6/24/2014 11:57:15 AM
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Good points.  Most schools I am familiar with generally have cement block/cinder block walls of decent construction.  Door have to be "kid proof" because they get a lot of "normal" abuse so they are usually of heavy construction.  Glazing is usually an narrow pane of wire reinforced glass and in a shooter situation students can usually be placed against a wall out of sight of the door.  We don't have to make a door shooter proof.  It just needs to slow down the shooter sufficiently that they keep on moving or inhibits them down to the point where law enforcement can deal with the shooter.

But keep in mind, your kids are far more likely to be killed in your own automobile.

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You need a really good door!
g-whiz   6/24/2014 9:57:33 AM
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Wouldn't the success of this device depend heavily on the construction of the door? A good, solid core door in a metal frame would be a minimum. The door would also need to free of any glazing. Even then, the sheetrock wall next to the door is weak and could be much more easily penetrated with just a couple kicks. Like they always say, a good defense is a good offence. Cowering in fear just doesn't seem like a good solution to me.

Elizabeth M
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Elizabeth M   6/24/2014 7:07:10 AM
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I think my last comment speaks to yours, fdos.

Elizabeth M
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Elizabeth M   6/24/2014 7:05:55 AM
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Cabe, you've really described the problem quite eloquently. I also think it's sad that there is a need for these type of products to be developed. I can see that school administrators and entrepreneurs are trying to tackle the problem and threat as it exists. I'm sure they also are trying to take measures to mitigate the problem itself and stop these things from happening in the first place. But in the meantime, there is an immediate and present threat, and these products are trying to address it. It's a shame they need to exist.

Elizabeth M
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Elizabeth M   6/24/2014 7:02:31 AM
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I couldn't agree with you more, tekochip.

a2
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a2   6/24/2014 3:15:55 AM
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@fdos: Exactly, safety measures do come 1st. Right now with no other option being available and safety cannot be overlooked, we have top bare it

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