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tekochip
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Re: Reshoring
tekochip   9/16/2014 6:41:22 PM
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Rather true GTOlover, when I hire I always look for somebody that has accomplished something, not what school they've gone to.  Otherwise you have employees that can't do anything until the company purchases whatever tool the student had been receiving for free at school.

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Re: Reshoring
armorris   9/16/2014 10:15:16 AM
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Having lost several relatives to the coal mines of West Virginia, I recognize the need for labor unions, but they don't know when to quit. Besides constantly asking for higher wages, they also force the companies to waste money. As an electical engineer, I worked at a defence contractor, one time, where I was not even allowed to touch the knobs on a voltmeter or oscilloscope. I had to have a technician do it.

At another job, my employer relocated to escape the labor unions. I was one of the engineers that designed a tester for a missile launcher. When I was sent to the location where the launchers were being manufactured, a man sat in a chair for the two days I was there with a cigarette in one hand and a big screwdriver in the other hand. He did nothing but watch to make sure that I did not load the bomb simulators myself. That process took about 20 minutes and I did it myself back at home, which was not a union shop. Whatever that guy was being paid to do normally, was not getting done for those two days.

If we are going to bring jobs back to the US, we need to get labor unions under some kind of reasonable control. IMO, they are the biggest reason why so many jobs have been outsourced to foreign countries.

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Re: Re-Shoring Net Numbers
Mydesign   5/12/2014 5:58:48 AM
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"I believe you're right about the stigma, Rob. Any company that adopts a policy of offshoring should be prepared for a backlash, not only within the own ranks, but in terms of public image"

Charles,  current economic situation forces for that.

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Mydesign   5/12/2014 5:57:07 AM
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"But I would contend that many a college graduate is not capable of boiling water with out written instructions or a youtube video showing how it is done!"

GTOlover, that means they know the theoretical aspects and have NO practical exposure.

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Re: Re-Shoring Net Numbers
Charles Murray   5/8/2014 5:37:05 PM
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I believe you're right about the stigma, Rob. Any company that adopts a policy of offshoring should be prepared for a backlash, not only within the own ranks, but in terms of public image.

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GTOlover   5/8/2014 8:08:18 AM
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Mydesign, I agree with you, but I was not referring to training someone to work an assembly line or operate a die press. This is not what I would call skilled labor in the sense of requiring an apprenticeship program. I mean more along the lines of machinists, toolmakers, welders, and other blue collar crafts. Yes, these areas do require talent. But I would contend that many a college graduate is not capable of boiling water with out written instructions or a youtube video showing how it is done!

Mydesign
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Re: Re-Shoring Net Numbers
Mydesign   5/8/2014 3:03:32 AM
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"The Reshoring Initiative told me that manufacturing jobs continue to migrate offshore. Moser said we'e now at net zero. The number of jobs returning roughly equals the number of jobs going away. So, as Moser put, it, "We've stopped the bleeding.""

Rob, that means in a No job loss situation.

Mydesign
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Mydesign   5/8/2014 3:01:11 AM
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""skilled manpower" is the key. Low skilled amnesty will not fix this problem. Companies should be getting back to apprenticeship programs and post high school training does not always have to be a college education! Many seem to think the government should train everyone, but the government (aka the taxpayers) are broke, so businesses should start the investment NOW!"

GTOlover, skilled manpower from domestic market may be a big issue. How government and industrial body is going to address this. Apprentiship and post high school training will be useful only for production environments, where the same work is repeatable. We cannot substitute the requirement of talente, where creativity and intelligence are very much required.

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Re: Re-Shoring Net Numbers
Rob Spiegel   5/7/2014 6:57:25 PM
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One more thought on offshoring, Chuck. I think people are beginning to realize that offshoring has hurt North America. And while that wasn't a concern 15 years ago, I think there's a growing stigma that goes with offshoring.

Rob Spiegel
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Re: Re-Shoring Net Numbers
Rob Spiegel   5/7/2014 6:55:24 PM
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Yes, you don't see the announcements of plant closures like you used to. It was once considered forward-thinking to shift overseas. I think it has lost its cool. Now it's becoming cool to open a plant in Texas or Ohio.

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