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Slideshow: Helicopter Drones Are Everywhere

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Quacker
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Re: As long as the images are for personal use only.....
Quacker   9/20/2014 9:38:01 AM
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The FAA says NO, but the FAA has no actual authority to say anyting. The Pirker response to the FAA appeal makes that abundantly clear, but the final decision on the appeal is not in yet. You can judge for yourself, but I think you will agree if you read it. Here is a link. I found this to be a great read, but if you don't want to invest the time, I suggest that you read at least the last 5 or 6 pages, where the attorney lays out the present law about "navigable airspace" and why by statute, it only extends down to 500 ft. below which the FAA has nothing to say about anything.

scribd.com/doc/225773285/Pirker-Appeal-Reply (add the usual stuff in front)

Regards-

William K.
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Re: As long as the images are for personal use only.....
William K.   9/19/2014 2:19:58 PM
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It seems that the FAA, as with most government agencies, is wanting to extend their authority, if not by actuaql law, then by default.. One more case of expanding control that does not serve the general populace very well. But on the other side, we certainly do need to have laws holding those flyers liable for any damage that they do. That part is important, but not in the realm of the FAA, I would not think.

dmorgan
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Re: As long as the images are for personal use only.....
dmorgan   9/19/2014 9:42:31 AM
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There may not be an existing law but FAA is threatening companies that want to use drones for their own use. As an example, a power company wants to survey it's own transmission lines on rights-of-way that it leases. FAA says NO because the power company is a commercial enterprise. FACT not heresay. We're not talking about lines running to your home, these are major transmission lines placed in remote locations specifically away from the populace; mountains, woods and swamps.

Quacker
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Re: As long as the images are for personal use only.....
Quacker   9/19/2014 9:28:52 AM
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Actually - there is no such law. Not that you would know it by the attempts of the FAA to intimidate "violators." If you track the recent failure of the FAA to fine Pirker, and the FAA's ridiculous attempts at appeal, you get to see that the FAA has no actual jurisdiction. Perhaps most notibly, by statutes signed into law in the 1950's by Eisenhower, the FAA has no jurisdiction below 500 feet. And it will take an act of Congress to change that.

William K.
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A fun hobbyist use.
William K.   4/22/2014 7:33:46 PM
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The really fun use of a camera-carrying drone will be to explore the "off limits" parts of our parks, those places too fragile to allow the puyblic tramping through them. My drone won't leave any marks at all, and IU will get to see some views not available to people, only to birds. Plus, if I crash a drone I won't be injured, except financially. Oh Well.

Charles Linquist
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Charles Linquist   3/25/2014 11:26:15 AM
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Yes, I build them.

 

Probably the best source of 'raw materials' is Hobby King

www.hobbyking.com

You will need:

4 motors 

4 propellers (2 CW rotation, 2 CCW rotation)  10"X 4.5" pitch recommended.

Radio (transmitter + receiver)

Flight Controller

Frame

4 ESCs (Electronic Speed Controls).  Get 40A types with ESC (on-board 5V regulators to provide power for the other equipment).

2-3 Batteries  2200mAH to 5000mAH 3-cell (12V nom) LiPoly.

Battery charger for above.

Miscellaneous flexible (silicone high-flex) wire.

Gimbal mount for camera

Camera (Go-Pro recommended because of size/weight)

Nice add-ons:

GPS accessory for the flight controller (allows for auto-hovering and return-to-home features).

FPV (First Person Video) transmitter + receiver + monitor to send live video to you so you can see what the camera sees.  You can use the GoPro as a camera for that, or use a separate small camera.

 

Some hints:

Get the best frame you can buy.  Something very sturdy, but with individual parts that are cheap and easy to replace - you will crash often at first.  You also need something with lots of ground clearance - so that your camera setup 

 

The exact setup depends on several factors, one of which is how much weight you want to lift, and how much time you need to spend in the air.  Normally that is 12-25 minutes on one charge.

You can contact me more directly at charles@linquist.net

 

Charles Linquist
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Re: Fabulous Tools
Charles Linquist   3/25/2014 11:26:07 AM
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Yes, I build them.

 

Probably the best source of 'raw materials' is Hobby King

www.hobbyking.com

You will need:

4 motors 

4 propellers (2 CW rotation, 2 CCW rotation)  10"X 4.5" pitch recommended.

Radio (transmitter + receiver)

Flight Controller

Frame

4 ESCs (Electronic Speed Controls).  Get 40A types with ESC (on-board 5V regulators to provide power for the other equipment).

2-3 Batteries  2200mAH to 5000mAH 3-cell (12V nom) LiPoly.

Battery charger for above.

Miscellaneous flexible (silicone high-flex) wire.

Gimbal mount for camera

Camera (Go-Pro recommended because of size/weight)

Nice add-ons:

GPS accessory for the flight controller (allows for auto-hovering and return-to-home features).

FPV (First Person Video) transmitter + receiver + monitor to send live video to you so you can see what the camera sees.  You can use the GoPro as a camera for that, or use a separate small camera.

 

Some hints:

Get the best frame you can buy.  Something very sturdy, but with individual parts that are cheap and easy to replace - you will crash often at first.  You also need something with lots of ground clearance - so that your camera setup 

 

The exact setup depends on several factors, one of which is how much weight you want to lift, and how much time you need to spend in the air.  Normally that is 12-25 minutes on one charge.

You can contact me more directly at charles@linquist.net

 

Rob Spiegel
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Re: As long as the images are for personal use only.....
Rob Spiegel   3/24/2014 9:17:04 PM
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Thanks for this information, Thinking_J. That explains a lot. I would imagine Amazon would have to alter that law if they plan to deliver packages with drones.

Thinking_J
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As long as the images are for personal use only.....
Thinking_J   3/24/2014 7:47:32 PM
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Currently,

ALL commercial use of drones in the US are banned under current law. There has been only one exception and that literally took an act of the US Congress to get approval.

Hobbyists.. have a great deal of latitude in where they fly. Most act responsibly. Those drones being sold last Christmas at the Mall? It is assumed they are being sold to hobbists... like RC airplanes of the past. Spying on your neighbors? Nothing new. You can sit in a tree , looking over your fence doing this.

When a hobbyist creates a model jet capable of going over 400 mph.. no problem. They have rules to work within. (look it up! really cool video on web)

When a hobbyists takes pictures of property for sale and uses the arial photos to promote it's sale.. .they are breaking the law. It is that simple.

When a movie company uses a drone... it is breaking the law.

When a farmer uses a drone for monitoring crops.. the law is being broken.

When a police dept uses a drone for documenting the scene of a crime.. the law is being broken.

YES .. thousands of well meaning , reasonable people are breaking this law.

What isn't simple .. the random enforcement of the law.

If something goes wrong (hits a child, crashes in a street causing a auto accident, etc...) they can be prosecuted in Federal court. In civil claims courts, it will make it harder to defend what they thought was reasonable actions on their part. They will be automatically be determined to be a "felon" at the time of their mishap. If they were a hobbist it wouldn't have been an issue.

 

This is a failure of the FAA... in setting the legal ground rules for obviously valid commercial uses of drones. This should have been in place 20-30 years ago. RC aircraft have been used for commercial purposes for a very long time. They just chose to ignore this because of it wasn't being discussed by the general public. This isn't a reflection of any adminstration, it is a reflection of a bureaucracy failing to be proactive for decades. (if no one is screaming to fix it.. leave it alone)

Their prior deadlines have passed.. the known future deadlines are un-likely to be met.

Lack of legal frame work for valid commerical use is the dominate issue related to drones in the US.      Hobbists? no problem.

 

lexfidesign
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Re: Fabulous Tools
lexfidesign   3/22/2014 3:15:45 PM
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Hi Charles,

When you said you own, do you mean you build them as well? Maybe you can direct me to resources for building one. I just have a need to mount my camera and hover it over a bike track. Thanks.

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