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Researchers Develop Brain-to-Brain Interface for Human Motion Control

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vimalkumarp
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Brain to Brain Interface
vimalkumarp   9/12/2013 6:58:17 AM
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Great post Elizabeth. Brain to Brain interface was actually "much awaited" as the next step of BCI. i believe this will really make waves in medical domain may be as a new step/ modality  in physiotherapy. Though it looks like science fiction, as Alan kay said: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" and this is like magic. on a personal note I was fortunate to inetract with Rajesh Rao on brain computer interface long ago.

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Elizabeth M   9/12/2013 8:00:28 AM
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Thanks, vimalkumarp. I wasn't that aware of this type of thing until I wrote about this but it does seem like it opens up a lot of new avenues in medical treatment for sure. Yes, it definitely seems like magic, as well. Although we know the activities of the human brain have a scientific basis, it's such a complex organ that it's hard not to think there is some element of something else going on besides pure chemistry.

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rpl3000   9/12/2013 8:21:07 AM
I fear the retail applications....

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Re: Brain to Brain Interface
vimalkumarp   9/12/2013 8:48:24 AM
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Yes as you said there is some element of something else going on besides pure chemistry. Cognitive science will open new avenues and throw light on menay other related domains and will indeed trigger an avalanche of innovations. I am really excited about BCI but now it is brain to brain...!

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Re: Brain to Brain Interface
alomran   9/12/2013 2:25:05 PM
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Hi, yes there are many other elements inside the human Brainbeside Chemtry, Chemestry generate static electrical waves, carried all the signals around the brain central nervus system. that is what we need to investigate more.  but the human brain has the strngest security system ever.  we need to bypass this security system and access the right wave legnth to the control information of the brain.  I have very strong experties and papers on ultrasound waves, (subliminal technologies).        

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alomran   9/12/2013 2:25:05 PM
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Hi, yes there are many other elements inside the human Brainbeside Chemtry, Chemestry generate static electrical waves, carried all the signals around the brain central nervus system. that is what we need to investigate more.  but the human brain has the strngest security system ever.  we need to bypass this security system and access the right wave legnth to the control information of the brain.  I have very strong experties and papers on ultrasound waves, (subliminal technologies).        

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NadineJ   9/12/2013 5:59:49 PM
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I can definitely see this being used in physical therapy. 

I must admit, I had an 'ew' moment when I first read the article.  BCI isn't for me personally but I like the possibilities.

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Elizabeth M   9/16/2013 3:57:38 AM
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It is a bit strange to wrap your head around this type of thing at first, Nadine, I will admit. And I still don't 100 percent grasp how it is possible--I suppose that would only come with experiencing it first hand. But it is pretty cool and could have some good applications.

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Ann R. Thryft   9/16/2013 1:51:46 PM
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Actually, that quote is from Arthur C. Clarke, a master of science fiction, and was the third of his three "laws":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke's_three_laws
The other two were, IMO, more interesting
    1.    When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.
    2.    The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.

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vimalkumarp   9/16/2013 1:58:31 PM
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@Ann:thanks a lot for correcting the source of the quote. I really appreciate for pointing out that mistake.

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Ann R. Thryft   9/16/2013 2:01:15 PM
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vimalkumarp, you are welcome. Tracking down who said what can be tough, even with (or because of) Internet sources. Being a lifelong sci-fi fan, I happen to remember that one from many years ago, but checked it in Wikipedia to make sure my own memory wasn't at fault.

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vimalkumarp   9/16/2013 2:10:48 PM
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@Ann: To be frank i am very particular about this and i very rarely make these kinds of mistake. I had a doubt about this long ago. But somehow it got fixed in my mind that it was Alan Kay who said this. I am a big fan of Alan Kay. any way thank you very much once again for taking time to explain.

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Ann R. Thryft   9/16/2013 2:32:33 PM
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vimalkumarp, I know from your previous comments and our prior exchanges that you are very precise and 99% accurate. I'm like that, too. Perhaps because of being a reporter, though, I always check what I think are "facts." Alan Kay sure could have said that one. He's known for "The best way to predict the future is to invent it." which sounds a bit like Clarke's second law.




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vimalkumarp   9/16/2013 2:49:57 PM
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i am happy that you checked on Alan Kay, I admire him and love that quote "The best way to predict the future is to invent it". thank you for your inputs Ann,

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vimalkumarp   9/16/2013 2:53:30 PM
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@ann: Kindly send me a test mail on perec.vimal@gmail.com so that I may get your mail id. Thanks for the time in correcting the quote once again

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Its been done
Battar   9/13/2013 11:54:38 AM
Haven't I seen TV evangelists doing that ? Projecting thoughts and making your hand move involuntarily towards your wallet...

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phantasyconcepts   9/13/2013 1:09:31 PM
And we thought cyber-bullying was bad before?!  Imagine what happens when some crazed teen 'victim' gets his hands on this and starts making his teachers chug drano or his 'enemies' jump off buildings or stick their hands into the french fry machine at McDonald's.  With every technological advance, we need to be certain we gain the wisdom to use it properly before we actually start using it.  Gunpowder, nuclear power, rocketry, and so forth prove that our capacity to understand the ramifications of misusing technology is extremely small when compared to our ability to dream up and justify the use of that technology.  And if cyber-bullying sounds like something impossible, how about someone like Osama bin Laden (notice I said LIKE him because I know he's dead) using this technology to direct unsuspecting suicide bombers in a terrorist attack?  This has to be thoroughly studied, and preferably controlled technology to prevent something like that from happening.  I am not paranoid about terrorists, I just have no faith in the ability of some humans to do something that is morally acceptable to the majority of people on the planet.  There's always some nutball somewhere who will pervert anything.

 

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Biac
BRDD-Man   9/13/2013 1:58:45 PM
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You should read "The Genesis Machine" by James P. Hogan.  He put a lot of thought into the beneficial uses of such a device.  He called the machine a BIAC, Bio InterActive Computer.  I think you will enjoy reading it.

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Elizabeth M   9/16/2013 4:15:47 AM
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That book sounds interesting, Blac, and worth a look. This definitely is an invention that would've appeared in scifi before it made it to real life.

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AnandY   9/19/2013 3:03:17 AM
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I have always been a big fan of great inventions but I have mixed feelings about this one. Has it been verifies to be 100% working or is it just one of those things that people usually just wish would be possible. If it is possible then what happens when this kind of technology falls into the wrong hands? If someone is able to control your actions then what is to stop them from using you to do their dirty work?I think that it is a great invention but people do not really need it that much.

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Thanks Elizabeth!
Dave Palmer   11/6/2014 6:32:21 PM
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Rao and Stocco's paper about this was just published in PLoS ONE yesterday -- now I see that you reported on it in Design News a year ago.  Great job keeping Design News readers ahead of the curve!

It seems to me that this is very similar to prosthetic limbs that are controlled by signals from motor neurons, which have been demonstrated in the past couple of years.  The difference is that, instead of being sent to a device, the signals are sent to another brain.  Pretty amazing stuff!

 

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Re: Thanks Elizabeth!
Elizabeth M   11/11/2014 7:02:26 AM
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We try to stay as current as possible here at Design News, Dave, so our readers have the latest on significant research. Thanks for noticing and appreciating! I think you're right, this type of technology has great implications for prosthetics.

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