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My Opinion on Technology in Sports

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Rob Spiegel
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Yeah for instant replay
Rob Spiegel   9/5/2013 9:44:28 PM
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Rich, I'm all for the addition of instant replay for baseball umps. I've seen too many heartbreaking wrong calls. I'd like to see it stop calls like the one that cheated Armando Galarraga of the Tigers out of his perfect game in 2010.

I too attended a game at Wrigley Field. Lovely stadium. When I attended, Harry Caray leaned out of the announcer's window and sang "Take Me Out to the Ballgame." Unforgettable.

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Technology@sports
Mydesign   9/6/2013 4:23:50 AM
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Richard, there is no doubt that technology can be used in almost all games for accurate and pin point decision making. In cricket, such technologies are using for concluding the third umpire decisions.

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vimalkumarp   9/6/2013 5:44:31 AM
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great example. in cricket DRS ( decision Review System) are using for concluding the third umpire decisions.

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vimalkumarp   9/6/2013 5:45:47 AM
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it is even the case in Tennis, all the grandslam events have the review technology in place. technology is even planned for offside decision in soccer.

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Pubudu   9/7/2013 3:21:49 AM
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Its true Mydesign that tech will support for the fine decision making in sport.
But when it comes to more lively energetic sports like soccer and I would believe that sometimes it will effect to liveliness of the game and it will diversify the morel from the game.

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Mydesign   9/10/2013 6:22:23 AM
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"Its true Mydesign that tech will support for the fine decision making in sport. But when it comes to more lively energetic sports like soccer and I would believe that sometimes it will effect to liveliness of the game and it will diversify the morel from the game."

Pubudu, we had similar thoughts while implementing the technology in cricket, but it get widely appreciated rather than criticism.

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FIFA goaline tech
vimalkumarp   9/6/2013 4:31:30 AM
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Great Post. What is your opinion about the FIFA goaline technology?

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Re: FIFA goaline tech
richnass   9/6/2013 7:33:14 AM
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In general, my only issue with using technology to help officiate is that it can suck the momentum out of a great game (and the teams participating). If it can be done quickly, I'm all for it.

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vimalkumarp   9/6/2013 7:42:09 AM
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you are spot on. usage of technology will play "spoilsport " since it will reduce the momentum and pace of the match. But if it can help in right decision it is still welcome.

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Pubudu   9/7/2013 3:40:34 AM
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@ vimalkumarp I do believe that to get the maximum thrill out of the game (not even for players as well as audience) ball should touch the net rather than just checking whether it has pass the line or not.

Some times when the decision coming game may change the direction (may be within 1 or 2 seconds) at that time giving another decision based on the tech and start from there, will mess the whole game. Then it's better to play a video game. 

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vimalkumarp   9/7/2013 3:48:08 AM
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good points. thanks for the insight

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Jim_E   9/6/2013 9:18:54 AM
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I'm a fan of motorsports, especially MotoGP (the top class of motorcycle racing).

It's crazy the amount of technology that has entered motorsports.  Nascar has managed to limit technology, only starting to permit fuel injection last year, but most other classes are crazy.  In MotoGP, the traction control systems are incredibly complex, utilizing GPS and/or similar technology, combined with lean angle sensors, and other inputs to specifically limit power at certain parts of the race track!  It used to be the rider's skill at throttle manipulation to control all of this, but the electronics have replaced or supplimented this skill.

 

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richnass   9/6/2013 9:32:10 AM
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Jim_E, that's an interesting one, because the technology that's available to the people building the cars/motorcycles would let them build machines that are potentially too powerful for their own good.

I'm all for making these sports safer.

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William K.   9/6/2013 8:28:10 PM
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At some point the driver or rider must be responsible for deciding what they can handle. The only completely safe motorcycle has it's wheels embedded in concrete, which, for some folks that I have met over the years, would still be capable of injuring them. PLEASE do not take capability away from my toys because others can't use them safely. Lawyers who defend stupid people are hurting all of the rest of us, and theyt are doing it only for the money.

People need to be accountable for their actions and their errors.

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SPORTS INJURIES & TECHNOLOGY
OLD_CURMUDGEON   9/6/2013 11:47:32 AM
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Earlier this week on the MICHAEL MEDVED radio Talk Show, he addressed this topic w/ two representatives of note.  One fellow, located in the Seattle area, has produced a shocking docudrama describing some of the issues w/ the modern game of football, and who should be eligible to plat that game.  I believe the movie is titled, the UNITED STATES of Paranoia.  On the other side of the discussion was a fellow who supported the "safety" of the game. Certain statistics were bandied about, deaths due to head-butting on-field injuries, etc.  While the whole hour show is too much to discuss here, suffice it to say that the arguments for limiting the game of football to youngsters was very compelling in my mind.  On one hand, their was great praise for the "modern" equipment being used, BUT on the other, it showed that the game had become MORE "violent" as a result.  So, I would conclude that football in the days of Paul Hornung & Bart Starr was a much more benign game to watch, since the players weren't in a complete dominate-at-all-costs frame of mind.  Thus, it would seem to me that this modern technology HAS CONTRIBUTED to the seriousness of injury on the playing field!

 

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Re: SPORTS INJURIES & TECHNOLOGY
William K.   9/6/2013 8:22:19 PM
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@ old_ it certainly would seem that you are quite right. Knights jousting in very good armor are much more likely to get a serios injury when that armor is breeched. Just like the fools in cars with antilock brakes, which may help stopping in some cases but mostly just give confidence in capabilities that are not there.

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OLD_CURMUDGEON   9/9/2013 8:43:49 AM
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In my original post, I was somewhat vague in my expressing one of the points from the radio broadcast.  What I meant to say was that one of the salient points made during that show was that the game of football SHOULD BE limited to a youngsters who have attained a certain age due the the sensitivity of their brain structure.  One person suggested that the MINIMUM age for playing should be no less that 15 years old, and that the game's rules be more structured toward "touch" football, rather than tackle football.

Personally, I tend to agree with that premise.  As a youngster during the Middle Ages, when football was first invented, all us kids went to the local school yard & played informal games of football, BUT we didn't make tackles, since none of us had any uniforms or "pads".  About the only thing we had were our dungarees & KEDS!

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William K.   9/9/2013 9:40:02 AM
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There are a whole bunch of different things being discussed here, including grade school athletics, high school athletics, motorcyles, and professional athletics. My comment is intended to address only professional athletics, those sports that pay the players much more money than an engineer would ever earn. 

Professional athletics is an entertainment thing, and so, just like the other entertainment offerings, it should not be constrained by an assumption that it is related to reality in any way. So giving the game officials the video records of any play so that they can see it from many different angles may reduce the chance of wrong calls quite a bit, and it would provide more entertainment for the viewers if they could see the same thing. It would indeed alter the character of the game, but that has already happened with games constantly halting the play in order for the TV stations to air their commecial messages. And of course, better protective hardware for all players would be a benefit for both the players and their employers, since an injured player is a nonproductive expensive asset.

Now for all of those non-professioal athletes, improved protective gear would also be a benefit, since they are probably not as able to handle the rougher parts of the competition. 

BUT, perhaps an even better choice would be to teach all the participants that real life does include risks and damage, and that they alone are responsible for their safety. Teaching people that they must always be depending on others for everything, especially safety, is certainly not doing anybody a favor.

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Rob Spiegel   9/9/2013 9:45:52 AM
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William K, are you suggesting that student athletes be responsible for their own safety in their sports activities? Or did I read that incorrectly?

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William K.   9/9/2013 9:57:42 AM
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Rob, What I was hoping to say is that while of course students should have safety equipment appropriate for the sport they are involved in, they must still recognize that the sports are not risk-free and injury free. I see a mindset among many that all activities must not include any risk at all, even for the most unqualified and those incapable or unwilling to avoid any hazard. 

Of course this does mean that all must play acording to the rules, which hopefully are such as to avoid a lot of the problems, but at the same time each individual does need to pay attention to their own safety. 

I did not realize that I was being unclear in that aspect.

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Rob Spiegel   9/9/2013 8:32:48 PM
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William K, you were probably being clear and I just didn't get it. When I was a kid, we didn't use any equipment while playing backyard football -- tackle or two-hand touch. Occasionally one of us would go down on the sidewalk that constituted the 50-yard line, and occasionally that would result in a concussion. But that last time I checked Facebook, we are all still alive.

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OLD_CURMUDGEON   9/9/2013 10:03:07 AM
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William K.--

On one thing we DO agree.... this blog has morphed into a multi-faceted one.  But, sorry, I don't agree with much of your analysis.  Mental maturity & outlook on life in general USUALLY is the product of physical age.  I certainly wouldn't expect a teenager to have the same outlook for caution in ANY endeavor as a person in their mid 30s & beyond.  I think accident statistics in general bear out that fact.  Look at the number of highway deaths involving teenagers & young drivers vs. drivers in their 40s & beyond.  The statistics are overwhelming.  Young folks, especially young males have an attitude that they can test "death" and NOT get burned.  A very blatant example is with motorcycle riding.  Here in FLA, we have a "no helmet required" statute.  I personally travel a very arterial hwy on a daily basis to & from my employment.  NOT one single day goes by that I don't see a young fellow acting out some very dangerous, HOLLYWOODesque stunt to the amazement & chagrin of all in the immediate area.  That IS pure testosterone at work!!!

Regarding pro-sports players & the game..... While I agree that for us spectators, it certainly IS entertainment, for the participants, it's a career, just as being a doctor is a career, or being an engineer is a career.  So, that doesn't mean that because it IS entertainment to us, the participants shouldn't have the advantage of all the safety available for their sport. 

Furthermore, regarding young sports players (grammar school & high school)... when they see their favorite players on TV banging heads, rushing as if they were "D9" CATS, it instills in their heads an "I CAN DO THAT" mental attitude, and when they apply those tactics on the field, they come out the losers.  Again, statistics ARE showing that school-level sports (including some college sports) ARE becoming MORE intense with the probability of serious life-threatening injury OR death.

I stand by my opinion that "better" technology of equipment IS partially to blame for the increase in serious accidents on the playing field.  It is just one more example of the Law of Unintended Consequences.

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TEHNOLOGY IN SPORTS
bobjengr   9/9/2013 6:30:49 PM
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Excellent post Rich.  I think it's only right that technology be applied to sports relative to the equipment used by the athletes. I suppose I'm OK with instant replay but it does drag out the various games and quite frankly, it appears to me the "refs" do a great job.   Most calls remain in force.  I saw a fascinating interview with Terry Bradshaw just last week.  He was discussing the NFL and the legal action taken by the players' union relative to head injuries.  The NFL "caved" and probably should have.  The players today are nine feet tall and weigh 800 pounds.  Any protective gear that can be developed should be used in these high impact sports

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Mydesign   9/10/2013 6:26:35 AM
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 "I think it's only right that technology be applied to sports relative to the equipment used by the athletes. I suppose I'm OK with instant replay but it does drag out the various games and quite frankly, it appears to me the "refs" do a great job. "

Bobengr, it has to be used for all types of sports activities.





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Charles Murray   9/10/2013 7:16:26 PM
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I agree with your points about head injuries, bob jengr. Even when the players weren't 6'-7' and 320 pounds, they were apparently sustianing some brain damage. The list is long -- John Mackey, Mike Webster, Bill Wade, Dave Duerson and many, many others have succcumbed to problems at young ages.  

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Cabe Atwell   10/23/2013 6:09:27 PM
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Surprisingly, football (or soccer) has been adopting 'goal-line' technology through FIFA with teams all over the globe. 

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Wrigley Field
Charles Murray   9/9/2013 7:43:26 PM
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I like your comments on Wrigley Field, Rich. As a semi-regular at Wrigley, I agree that the lack of technology is part of the park's charm. But that lack of technology is also a double-edged sword. The bathrooms there are notorious for having advanced only marginally beyond the invention of indoor plumbing. If the challenge is to use sports technology judiciously, I would say the Wrigley Field bathrooms would be a good place to start.

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