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Condition Monitoring Moving Broader Adoption

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Charles Murray
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Charles Murray   1/18/2013 5:10:22 PM
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I'm curious, Al -- you mention that preventative maintenance was rarely practiced due to the high cost of conventional systems. Is it the high initial cost of the systems or the cost of implementing them?

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Control Charts
mrdon   1/19/2013 7:48:11 PM
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Al, Interesting article and survey results. With this module that B&R Automation developed to monitor machine performance, is it possible to obtain data for creating Control Charts?

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Preventive Maintenance
apresher   1/21/2013 3:59:48 PM
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Chuck, I think the issue with Preventive Maintenance is both hardware and software. What vendors are working toward are standard packages within their development tools which allows users to very easily implement software solutions using standard tools. In the case of wind turbines for example, where reliability is critical and detecting problems can save big $, vendors are offering optional add-ons to their systems to provide advanced functionality.

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Re: Control Charts
apresher   1/21/2013 4:05:41 PM
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Not sure if the B&R package provides the specific data for Control Charts or not.  Will see if I can check on that. The goal of these condition monitoring modules from B&R is to precisely detect cases when service work may be needed-- along with being very easy for the user to configure.  Back of Chuck's question, that makes implementing the feature easier because most of the specific software functionality is already provided.

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Re: Control Charts
mrdon   1/21/2013 4:57:27 PM
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 Al, Thanks for reply and the investigation into the module supporting development of Control Charts. Look forward in the hearing B&R Automation response.

William K.
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Condition monitoring on the same controller as all else.
William K.   1/21/2013 8:43:35 PM
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I have a concern and a caution about putting any safety controls on the same controller as condition monitoring code or data acquisition code, and really, any other code. My reason for concern is that sometimes programs lock themselves into conditions that prevent the rest of the program from executing. That could cause a disaster if it inhibeted some safety function that was needed urgently. Perfect code would have no problms, of course, but not all code is perfect. So while there mnay not be any problems arise from running all of the code, including safety functions, on one controller, it is leaving an opportunity for problems available. 

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Single Point Solution
Mydesign   1/22/2013 4:57:18 AM
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"The answers were not necessarily surprising but they did confirm recent initiatives to provide more tightly integrated solutions."

AI, yes peoples are looking for single point solutions. They don't want to refer different data set or devices for analyzing, instead they prefer a single point solution where they can get all in a capsulated form.

apresher
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Integrated Safety
apresher   1/25/2013 12:59:56 PM
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William, I can understand your reservations about integrated safety.  But the incentives to eliminate the separate Safety PLC from the total system cost point of view,  redundancy features plus implementing safety software using the same development tools as the rest of the machine seem to be winning among users. Suppliers will need to prove that these systems with multiple applications running on a single machine controller will operate reliably over the long haul.

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Condition Monitoring
Gorski   2/9/2013 4:03:36 PM
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This approach to condition monitoring machinery would be a boon to Plane Engineers with the resposibility for maintaining machinery in a production plant. Now,as the article states, separate pieces of equipment are required to monitor temperature, pressure and vibration. All inclusive instrumentation would be a great advance in maintaining production and increasing the bottom line.

 

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Condition Monitoring
Gorski   2/9/2013 4:03:36 PM
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This approach to condition monitoring machinery would be a boon to Plane Engineers with the resposibility for maintaining machinery in a production plant. Now,as the article states, separate pieces of equipment are required to monitor temperature, pressure and vibration. All inclusive instrumentation would be a great advance in maintaining production and increasing the bottom line.

 

GORSKI PE

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