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Dishwasher's Jammed Water Pump Blamed on Bug

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Ann R. Thryft
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Re: Finding Bugs in Odd Places
Ann R. Thryft   5/31/2012 2:23:58 PM
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An interesting biology tidbit: rodents actually gnaw on all kinds of things that don't look or smell like food. It's to keep their teeth, which continue to grow throughout their lives, at a reasonable length, so they don't grow into their jaws. That's why they are the main wildlife, at least in temperate zones, responsible for destroying so many electrical wires.

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Re: What's with the filters?
Rob Spiegel   5/31/2012 2:36:06 PM
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Good question, Ann. My dishwasher is designed so nothing larger than a sunflower seed can get through the main compartment. It's not a fancy filter, it's just that the holes for water passage are very small. Seems an easy and logical design.

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Re: What's with the filters?
Ann R. Thryft   5/31/2012 2:44:52 PM
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It seems easy and logical to me, too, Rob, although experience tells me that's not good enough when it comes to the realities of machines. But a sunflower seed may be large enough to do damage, since others mentioned a pistachio shell and glass fragments. So I'm wondering if a filter small enough to keep out these objects might also be too fine to let water pass through at high enough rates, or that maybe there's another design problem such a fine screen would cause.

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Re: What's with the filters?
Rob Spiegel   5/31/2012 2:49:42 PM
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Good points, Ann. There may be a potential problem if the filter was so fine that it would quickly get clogged. So there is probably a design balance between having it fine enough to catch items like glass while still allowing a flush that doesn't quickly clog.

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Re: Who found the original broken glass ?
Tim   5/31/2012 6:35:04 PM
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Both pieces of glass were about 3 x 3 mm which was just a little too large to allow the impeller to turn.  The broken glass was about 2 weeks before we had the issue with the drain.

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Re: What's with the filters?
Tim   5/31/2012 6:40:17 PM
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Looking at the filter and setup, I still do not necessarily know how the glass got to the drain motor.  There is a top filter with multiple small holes and a locking ring that holds this in place.  The best I can figure is that somehow the edge of the filter was pushed up during the cycle and the glass worked its way in.

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Bug problems
Charles Murray   5/31/2012 7:19:43 PM
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It's not unusual for bugs to be attracted to dishwashers because dishwashers are moist and warm. Unfortunately, I don't know what design engineers can do to prevent them from getting in, though.

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Re: Finding Bugs in Odd Places
Tim   5/31/2012 10:06:30 PM
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That is interesting information about the origins of de-bugging.  I guess that bugs have been around a long time and continue to pester all different ways.

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Jon Titus   5/31/2012 10:40:05 PM
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About 400-million years...

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Re: Finding Bugs in Odd Places
notarboca   6/1/2012 2:30:23 AM
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Another interesting critter is the ant.  When I lived "out in the country", ants swarmed the contactor on my air conditioning unit, rendering it useless.  Also got into the telephone junction box outside and disrupted it, too.

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