HOME  |  NEWS  |  BLOGS  |  MESSAGES  |  FEATURES  |  VIDEOS  |  WEBINARS  |  RESOURCE CENTER  |  INDUSTRIES
REGISTER   |   LOGIN   |   HELP
Blogs
Sherlock Ohms

Billboard Causes Computer Crash

NO RATINGS
View Comments: Newest First|Oldest First|Threaded View
Page 1/3  >  >>
Cadman-LT
User Rank
Gold
Re: Waste of energy
Cadman-LT   3/9/2013 12:43:36 PM
NO RATINGS
Rigby5, I agree. Boot-up draws way more power than regular power.

Rigby5
User Rank
Gold
Spotlight draw
Rigby5   3/8/2013 12:16:48 PM
NO RATINGS
The thing you have to remember is that a billboard will be using lamps more like in a theater than what you would be used to inside a building.  They could have a large ballast to fill or many filiments to heat up.  Remember a filiment has very little resistance until it gets hot.  Electric motors use statges or capatitors to limit starting drop, but lamps may not.  I agree the utility is probably cutting corners, but that is a constant problem and pretty much a fact of life.

BRedmond
User Rank
Iron
Re: Waste of energy
BRedmond   3/8/2013 11:55:58 AM
NO RATINGS
Billboard lighting across the street should not be causing a voltage dip on the computer power circuit in the office sufficient to reboot the computer.  Sounds like a utility issue.  If it was a 200HP motor...

Rigby5
User Rank
Gold
Re: Waste of energy
Rigby5   3/8/2013 11:26:35 AM
NO RATINGS
The reason the computers rebooted is that when you first turn on anything with a large capacity or has low resistance until it heats up, temporarily there is such a drop in voltage that it is equivalent to a power cycle.

BRedmond
User Rank
Iron
Re: Waste of energy
BRedmond   3/8/2013 10:17:42 AM
NO RATINGS
The author didn't say that it was an electronic billboard.  An electronic billboard would be illuminated all day (maybe shut down late at night when nobody will see it?).  This was a good old fashioned billboard with lights so that it could be seen at night.

I am curious why the billboard lights coming on caused the computer to reboot.  The author seems to know or suspect but didn't say.

Cadman-LT
User Rank
Gold
Re: Power
Cadman-LT   2/12/2013 9:52:16 AM
NO RATINGS
BTW, the ones that failed were the cheap $50 ones. The one I have now...like $1000 unit. It better work!

Cadman-LT
User Rank
Gold
Re: Power
Cadman-LT   2/12/2013 9:50:26 AM
NO RATINGS
ab3a,

 

 Great advice! I trust my UPS. I have had many many many and all have failed. This is a good unit...see how it goes.

ab3a
User Rank
Gold
Re: Power
ab3a   1/24/2013 3:24:34 PM
NO RATINGS
Be careful. I have a very bad attitude about the unfortunately named Uninterruptable Power Supply.  I've seen more failures in those things than in the "dirty" building power.

A proper UPS has a full time inverter running off of batteries with a completely independent charger.  Not all UPS gear is like that. Some have standby inverters, some have synchronous inverters, and some are just plain bizarre. 

If you expect the UPS to "clean up" your power, you'd better get a full time inverter and make certain that the circuit that you use doesn't go far and that ALL outlets are VERY clearly marked so that some cleaning crew doesn't plug in to them.


Dirty power is usually best fixed at the source: the building ground system.  Make sure the neutrals are properly bonded in the correct places.  If you don't know what I'm talking about, hire a master electrician and have them explain it to you.


This fix sounds to me like using a small bandage for a sucking chest wound of a problem. 

Cadman-LT
User Rank
Gold
Power
Cadman-LT   1/12/2013 12:14:39 PM
NO RATINGS
Makes me feel good about my new aquirement of a new APC UPS unit that protects all of my equipment! No worries....for now.

Thinking_J
User Rank
Platinum
UPS.. not always the solution
Thinking_J   1/9/2013 5:41:08 PM
NO RATINGS
We thought we were being careful and clever.. integrated UPS into wiring of our offices.. no box , common maintenance location for mulitple small UPS boxes.

The only indication of UPS was involved.. orange colored outlets indicating the power was supplied by UPS. Standard outlets had regular while/beige color.

Problem: the cleaning lady coming through in the evening didn't know the significance of the orange outlets.. yup, she put a high current draw device (vaccum cleaner) on the limited current UPS outlet.. causing the current limiting on the UPS to kick in .. and shutting down the workstation running simulations overnight.

What did I learn?... - communications to everyone is important (and is hard to maintain), and UPS is just one aspect of clean power.

 

Page 1/3  >  >>
Partner Zone
More Blogs from Sherlock Ohms
A failed capacitor is one thing, but finding out it failed because of thoughtless design requires the investigative powers of Sherlock Ohms.
Now that automotive electronics are as complex as a personal computer, sometimes they need a reboot like a computer.
If the fuse and fuse holder don't match up right, hefty repair bills might follow.
The light amid darkness increased suspicions. A secret power source was the answer.
At the battery factory, a number of things can go wrong, from lousy suppliers to oddball crimping.
Design News Webinar Series
5/30/2013 11:00 a.m. California / 2:00 p.m. New York / 7:00 p.m. London
5/29/2013 11:00 a.m. California / 2:00 p.m. New York / 7:00 p.m. London
6/25/2013 11:00 a.m. California / 2:00 p.m. New York / 7:00 p.m. London
6/27/2013 11:00 a.m. California / 2:00 p.m. New York / 7:00 p.m. London
Blogs from Our Sponsors
From Dell / Intel®
New Paradigms in Design Work
Scott Hamilton, vertical market strategist for Dell Precision workstations, 5/2/2013    5
Early in my career, I worked as a draftsman and remember the days of drawing on vellum with numbered pencils and Mylar with plastic lead. This was a fun experience in the sense that I ...
From Dell / Intel®
Increased Workstation Performance Is as Easy as 'DPPO'
Trey Morton, Dell, 4/25/2013    2
I've been using workstations for more than 10 years and love finding ways to get more performance from my system. With demanding professional applications that require more power each ...
From Dell / Intel®
Taking Some of the Grit out of Manufacturing
Kirsten Billhardt, Manufacturing Industry Marketing Strategist, Dell, 3/26/2013    5
A lasting memory from my first job as an engineer in an auto assembly plant is standing on hard concrete at six in the morning, vending-machine coffee clutched in hand, listening to ...
Quick Poll
The Continuing Education Center offers engineers an entirely new way to get the education they need to formulate next-generation solutions.
Jun 24 - 28, Design Your Own Android App
SEMESTERS: 1  |  2  |  3


DN Radio
Sponsored by
NEXT UPCOMING BROADCAST
For industrial control applications, or even a simple assembly line, that machine can go almost 24/7 without a break. But what happens when the task is a little more complex? That’s where the “smart” machine would come in. The smart machine is one that has some simple (or complex in some cases) processing capability to be able to adapt to changing conditions. Such machines are suited for a host of applications, including automotive, aerospace, defense, medical, computers and electronics, telecommunications, consumer goods, and so on. This radio show will show what’s possible with smart machines, and what tradeoffs need to be made to implement such a solution.
Twitter Feed
Design News Twitter Feed
Like Us on Facebook

Sponsored Content

Technology Marketplace

Datasheets.com Parts Search

185 million searchable parts
(please enter a part number or hit search to begin)
Copyright © 2013 UBM Canon, A UBM company, All rights reserved. Privacy Policy | Terms of Service