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The Mill Is Peppered With Problems

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Ken E.
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Re: Plastic? Really?
Ken E.   3/9/2013 12:40:39 PM
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One finds very many pepper mills with ceramic mills, which is orders of magnitude harder than any plastic. I'll go out on a limb, and assume the grinding surfaces aren't plastic, the author glanced at them (white!) and made an assumption, as do you.  Alternatively, the grinding surface may have had plastic molded around it.

Cadman-LT
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Re: Plastic? Really?
Cadman-LT   3/9/2013 12:52:21 PM
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I still doubt an engineer could mistake plastic for ceramic!

Cadman-LT
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Re: Plastic? Really?
Cadman-LT   3/9/2013 12:53:04 PM
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You guys don't give him enough credit.

Cadman-LT
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Re: Plastic? Really?
Cadman-LT   3/9/2013 12:54:19 PM
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Maybe he bought cheap ones and you buy expensive ones! I still believe him.

Ken E.
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Re: Plastic? Really?
Ken E.   3/9/2013 1:17:01 PM
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Good engineers make wrong assumptions all the time.  Your last three posts in quick succession, 4 sentences total, certainly suggests an impulsiveness on your part, (No edit buttons?) not to mention a willingness to make an assumption about the author, and anyone else.

The author wasn't really concerned about the grinding surfaces, nor did he say anything that suggested he even looked closely at them.  No brand name even, so I couldn't look it up.  If he's wrong, no big.  If I'm wrong, no big.  If you're wrong, well, probably someone elses fault, right?

Bob Salter
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Re: Plastic? Really?
Bob Salter   3/11/2013 4:44:20 PM
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The pepper bottles with their own grinders I've seen have a pressed on cap in order to discourage re-filling. For a "throw away" item, they supply a fairly good grinder. Now any one clever enough should be able to pull the cap off in order to refill. Just be careful you don't break the glass bottle, gash a finger severing a tendon, and end up with a $ 10K hospital bill. Risk versus reward study anyone?

Keldawwg
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I'm not sure what the one I have is, or even where I got it.
Keldawwg   3/11/2013 5:45:59 PM
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I suspect we might have picked it up at Sur La Table in Walnut Creek...

It's plastic, and it's a combo Salt Grinder/Pepper Grinder. It has two levers at the top that you squeeze to dispense. It has a little S in the window on the side when it's grinding Salt, and a P in the window when grinding pepper. You just rotate the levers around to change it.

My wife has Rheumatoid Arthritis, and she has very little hand strength. Most rotary grinders are too difficult for her to use. She has trouble unscrewing the cap off a bottled water.

The levers are very easy to use, and it dispenses from the bottom. We've had the thing for years, and it's still working like new... I've refilled it several times now, and it's been a really great little addition. The wife has been having me put Sea Salt in it... She thinks it tastes better, although the only real difference that I can see is it doesn't have iodide added to it... (We get plenty of salt with iodide, in any case...)

I also like the looks of this one... http://www.surlatable.com/product/PRO-184229/Kuhn-Rikon-High-Output-Ratchet-Mills Ceramic grinder that has an easy to use ratchet mechanism, adjustable grind, easy to refill and inexpensive...

Kelly

 

Jeff_A
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Pepper Grinders
Jeff_A   3/11/2013 7:19:52 PM
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We use a pepper grinder that we inherited from my mother in law.  It has been used regularly for at least four decades. It works great. If I tried to take it apart to analyze its superior performance, my wife would kill me.   

Last year, we received as a gift a very nice looking pepper grinder that did not work out of the box.  It looked good, had the screw top adjustment for grind, and either gave out nothing or locked up on the first few tries. On the next turn, the mechanism kind of just fell out of the top of the grinder.  It went in the trash.  We went back to old reliable and use it daily.

Tool_maker
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So who is really at fault?
Tool_maker   3/12/2013 1:03:29 PM
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 It quit working a few days later so you set it aside until you could work on it. Did you write a letter to the manufacturer? Probably not. So the bean counter who chose profit over quality has won. If everyone who bought one of these inferior products took them back to the retailer soon they would disappear from inventory and would end up in Big Lots or Dollar Tree store until the supply was exhausted.

  I keep repeating the same mantra: If we accept garbage any CEO who is doing right by the stockholders will maximize profits by producing and selling the cheapest product he can. When the item was bought and kept, even though it was of poor quality. you confirmed that attitude. In the future, I hope you take deffective items back and demand a refund.

Cadman-LT
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Re: So who is really at fault?
Cadman-LT   4/10/2013 11:09:45 AM
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Tool_maker, I agree. If we accept garbage products then that's what they will sell. The cheaper they can make them the better for them. A 2 cent part might make the difference in a good or bad product, but they don't care. My mom does it all the time....she sees something for cheap...buys it, then wonders why it breaks days later. I doubt there is a solution to this.

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