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Rob Spiegel
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Re: Capacitors
Rob Spiegel   11/7/2012 11:03:01 AM
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Battar, those parts may have gone to the external market as well, in which case they were good parts, but counterfeit nonetheless. I once did an article that discussed that some of the counterfeits (such as in this instance) were actually good parts. That statement caused quite a few fires out there in the parts distribution world.

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Cadman-LT   11/14/2012 12:03:49 PM
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Rob, I had no idea that was going on. All I ever heard was good companies here in the US were buying parts from ...say China...and they were counterfeit.

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Cadman-LT   11/14/2012 12:06:02 PM
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From what I have read, I'm not talking small companies. Big big companies getting counterfeit parts. It seems to be a big deal.

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Re: Capacitors
Cadman-LT   11/14/2012 12:10:05 PM
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Is it possible that a little part of the reason things don't last as long as they should is because of counterfiet parts? Just a thought.

Rob Spiegel
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Rob Spiegel   11/14/2012 9:22:29 PM
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Cadman-LT, counterfeit parts take a number of shapes. Generally, they are inferior. Many of them are stripped from electronic products that get shipped from the U.S. to developing countries. Poor families, strip out the components and the parts are flushed back into circulation. This also causes health hazards for the familites stripping the parts.

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Re: Capacitors
Rob Spiegel   11/21/2012 2:59:49 PM
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That may certainly be the case, Cadman-LT. Many companies end up using counterfeit parts without knowing it. But there seems to be a lot of other reasons products are failing to last. Shifting manufacturing to Asia sees to run coincidentally with lower quality products.

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Real root cause!
Ratsky   11/29/2012 4:56:25 PM
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For a number of years, I worked for a company whose top management and founders came out of the aerospace industry.  The president was a former "jet jockey" test pilot.  He had a simple rule that saved us all a lot of grief:  "Glue always fails eventually.  Never use glue where its failure causes a product defect."

Frank Karkota
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Re: Capacitors
Frank Karkota   12/1/2012 7:09:27 PM
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Regarding the capacitors that failed, I doubt that it was counterfeit parts, but contaminated dielectric.  The capacitors were made in the US and purchased directly from the manufacturer.  They were leaded monolithic chip capacitors.  I suspect that the dielectric was contiminated during the making of the chip, or by the rosin used in the soldering, or even by the cleaning after soldering, or maybe even by the epoxy coating.

Of course, the chips may have been made overseas and purchased by the US capacitor manufacturer for fabrication into the leaded package, but in that case, the US manufacturer would have purchased them directly from the factory and not through an agent or distributor.

Regardless of the cause of the failure, it was costly for me to replace thousands of capacitors mounted on double sided board, with most capacitors soldered through a ground plane!

Rob Spiegel
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Re: Capacitors
Rob Spiegel   12/3/2012 2:00:44 PM
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That sounds pretty horrible, Frank. How did the manufacturer respond when you alerted them to the problem? 

Frank Karkota
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Frank Karkota   12/3/2012 2:04:51 PM
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The manufacturer filed a lawsuit against me because I refused to pay for the defective capacitors.  Running a small business without an honest and capable lawyer is impossible!

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