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Slideshow: Garbage Disposal Doesn't Hold Water
11/18/2013

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Cabe Atwell
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Re: for the furry critters everywhere
Cabe Atwell   1/20/2014 5:41:13 PM
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'We were at a tailgate party in Austin Texas. These guys had a "redneck margarita machine." It was a Cooler with a disposal mounted on the bottom of it. The disposal output was piped back to the top of the cooler and there was a petcock on the pipe for filling your glass. It worked.'

Now that's engineering!

loadster
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for the furry critters everywhere
loadster   11/26/2013 12:25:27 PM
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If its any consolation, I have replaced several disposals and its usually because the shaft seal leaks and allows the motor housing to hydrate and corrode.

Its a pig; why in-sink-erator ever thought to denigrate cute little badgers as omnivores, I don't know. I will remember this case to be careful buying that brand or ensuring housing are not made of pig-pot-metal. Sorry hogs everywhere.

I have to say galvanic corrosion makes sense with dissimilar metals. The ferrous grinding plates are probably the culprit. You got 16 years of convenience for $6.25 a year. It does look like you were grinding rocks in there. But I've heard that sound and you would have not abided that. It is surprising that you ran right out and bought a similar replacement before forensic cracking of the case.

My current hog is a kenmore; at the time they were closer to shop then Lowes homedepot or other. But this evening I will look closely for corrosion signs in the food chamber. Leak alarm is smart insurance cuz' warranties are weak. Amazing disposals price range from $80 to $300. guess we know why but the quality is not apparent when its painted pretty midnight blue.

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bobjengr   11/25/2013 5:54:43 PM
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Joeb--Now these are two very good pieces of advice.  I had no idea this would work.  Will give it a try.   I retired from GE in 2005 and can attest to the fact that appliances definitely do not last as long as previous models.   The "average" home owners move every four (4) years.  (At least that was the number prior to 2005.)  Appliance manufacturers know that and design accordingly.

tomintx
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Re: Garbage Disposal as Blender
tomintx   11/25/2013 12:45:10 PM
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Yuck!  I sure hope the aspiring bartenders spent the $100 for a NEW Disposal in this redneck apparatus.

These guys were actually pharmacists.  I trusted that their machine was safe.  Besides, the margaritas were tasty.

JimT@Future-Product-Innovations
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Re: Garbage Disposal as Blender
JimT@Future-Product-Innovations   11/25/2013 10:55:47 AM
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Yuck!  I sure hope the aspiring bartenders spent the $100 for a NEW Disposal in this redneck apparatus. But as "back-yard" projects go, I assume it was USED.  I guess with enough Tequila the lingering after-taste of garbage will eventually fade,,,,

(PS - Glad to see so many people enjoyed this Blog!)

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Re: Garbage Disposal as Blender
OLD_CURMUDGEON   11/25/2013 8:12:07 AM
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OFall the entries to this blog, THIS one is far & away the best....... You can keep your electrolysis & all that chemistry....... I'll take the margarhitas & TX BBQ anyday!!!!!

ADIOS!

Larry M
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Re: Bad place for corrosion
Larry M   11/22/2013 10:35:41 PM
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Joeb wrote: "Dishwasher soap is sodium hydroxide or lye if you know it by that name, very alkali and therefore very corrosive. It loves aluminum, which the disposal body is made from and eats it just as fast as it touches it."

You know, that might explain why disposers no longer last nearly as long as they used to. It used to be very rare to replace a disposer. Now it seems like 10 years is all you get. (I installed a Badger 5 in 2001 and replaced it with another in 2012.) My recollection is that when phosphtes were banned, people began complaining about the poor washing quality of the substitutes. Those substitutes were probably based on sodium hydroxide.

For those who don't remember their college chemistry, sodium hydroxide and fat are the two primary ingredients of some soaps. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap

Larry M
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Re: Definitely Monkeys
Larry M   11/22/2013 10:25:50 PM
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oldguywith toys wrote: "Slight correction: Hotpoint appliances weren't made by GE (General Electric) but by GEC (General Electric Corp.), a British conglomerate that went through a few trademark infringement lawsuits with the U.S. GE."

No, no, no. Don't confuse the British company with the Hotpoint brand used by GE in the United States. They are NOT the same.

Interestingly, the UK company was actually started in California and moved to the UK. and for a period of almost 20 years (1989-2008), the US GE company owned 50% of the UK Hotpoint, so it's a possible source of confusion.

The Hotpoint appliances sold in the US are really GE products with NOTHING changed but the label. Even the part numbers are the same.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotpoint for example.

Larry M
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Re: Inferior materials and poor designs + bad installation
Larry M   11/22/2013 10:19:24 PM
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Bob from Maine wrote: "I agree, had this units not had standing water inside the chamber, electrolysis would have been much less. Frequently installers put the trap so high that water stands in the disposal. Often the dishwasher pumps out into the disposal so there is a constant renewal of electrolyte. I have replaced many disposals but never seen one quite as bad as the one in the article."

The trap on my unit is much lower than the disposal chamber. In fact I had to make a 3-inch extension on the drain tube to reach down to the trap. The elbow which came with the unit was not long enough.

Nevertheless my old unit looks just like the one shown here. I still have it--waiting for spare time to salvage the copper motor windings. Probably $5 worth of copper which I can put with my copper pipe scraps until I can get all of it to the scrap metal yard.

Larry M
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Re: Definitely Monkeys
Larry M   11/22/2013 10:12:32 PM
OLD_CURMUDGEON wrote: "In fact, problems rose to a boiling point in the later 70s, when people sued GM because their (for example) Oldsmobile had an engine which came from CHEVROLET.  Even the valve covers were embossed w/ the CHEVROLET signature.  Owners were NOT amused!"

Yeah, but when the Hydramatic plant burned down in 1953 and Pontiacs were shipped with PowerGlides and Oldsmobiles and Cadillacs were shipped with DynaFlows, no one said a word, even though us motor-heads knew the two-speed PowerGlides and Dynaflows were clearly inferior transmissions compared to the three-speed Hydramatics. It is possible that the GM execs used that experience to make their decision on responding to the engine shortage.

You would remember this, O_C, but for the young folks' benefit:

http://www.autotran.us/TheGreatHydraMaticFire.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydramatic

http://www.freep.com/article/20130812/NEWS02/308120157/

 

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