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William K.
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William K.   1/31/2014 9:16:26 AM
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@TF#5, Acting on emotions would also probably include making choices that seem like a good idea at the time, without even consideing the consequential results. A lot like driving really fast on the straight stretch of road and failing to consider the sharp turn at the end of that stretch. It has also been equated to running while watching one's feet and failing to note the cliff close ahead.

And there is also that quote from some old sage: "for every complex problem there is a simple solution, AND IT IS USUALLY WRONG." I like that one because it seems to be proven correct over and over.

tekochip
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tekochip   1/31/2014 7:52:21 AM
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It was just one of those conversations that took a slight detour.

a.saji
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a.saji   1/31/2014 3:39:07 AM
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@Tuna: As long as the purpose is being served or met why do you have to worry about the outer look ? I think the purpose is what should be considered.        

a.saji
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a.saji   1/31/2014 3:36:39 AM
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@Tuna: Good point. I too feel you cannot take emotions into consideration while taking such decisions. Its always better to go ahead with what you have.       

TunaFish#5
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TunaFish#5   1/31/2014 12:39:09 AM
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@William K,  on your & O.C.'s toilet tangent.

> Unknowing decision makers acting on emotions.....

Emotions, maybe.  But also, I would argue, a case either of looking at the wrong metric or of looking at a reasonable metric the wrong way.

 

or how about this further refinement:  "Policy makers playing off the emotions of the unknowing electorate by looking at a reasonable metric the wrong way." 

In politics, simplicity sells.

 

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TunaFish#5   1/31/2014 12:22:32 AM
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@Tekochip & William K.

Sorry if I'm the slow car on this train, but the author's issue was with a fan being protected from an overcurrent condition, and -- as I understand the conversation flow -- monitoring the overcurrent is justified because of suds lock.

I'm familiar with suds lock from my collegiate days.  No I wasn't a dishwasher, but our campus had a few water fountains (the big outdoor kind that you toss pennies & roommates into, not drinking fountains!)  Anyway, from time to time, some rambunctious >sports fans< would dump laundry detergent into the fountains & inadvertantly ruin the >pump< due to suds lock.   In these cases, the pump motor would indicate any current irregularities, not the fans.   (Fans who got caught suffered other consequences!)

So I'm a devout believer in suds lock being a bad thing for pumps, but I am missing the role that fans play in a dishwasher suds lock condition.

William K.
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William K.   1/29/2014 4:36:36 PM
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Tek, all of the instances of way to much suds in a washing machine that I have seen resulted in shutting down the machine before any of the problems that you described could happen. But they do sound quite believable. The good news is that the problems all come from operator error, not from a machine fault. So once they are cleaned up the system should be clear to function correctly again.

tekochip
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tekochip   1/29/2014 4:17:40 PM
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I know it's hard to believe, but moving suds is hard work.  I never worked on a dishwasher with the issue, but it can be  real pain with washing machines.  The suds create a great deal of friction and can couple the drum to the tub as well as loading down the motor.


William K.
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William K.   1/29/2014 2:11:33 PM
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@Bobwojo, "Suds Lock" is that interesting condition that can occur in a dishwasher or even a washing machine, whereby the entire volume is filled with a quite dense quantity of suds. In a dishwasher it is most often caused by using dish washing detergent instead of dishwasher detergent. In a washing machine, it is most often caused by simply using an excessive amount of detergent, or using a foaming detergent such as dishwashing detergent. In a dishwasher the effect is to disrupt the venting and spray patterns and to not drain out when thye cycle requires it to drain. In a washing machine the obvious problem is suds flowing out the top of the machine. 

Sometimes there are secondary problems caused , but usually the resulkt is just a soapy mess all over.

OLD_CURMUDGEON
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OLD_CURMUDGEON   1/29/2014 7:47:04 AM
William K:  You wouldn't by any stretch of the imagination be describing OUR beloved gov't officials on EVERY level from lowly dog catcher to the BIG GUY, would you???????????  NOPE!, I didn't think so, but was wonderin' anyhow........

There isn't enough paper in the world to fill the books with details of how gov't mandates have seriously altered the lives of the "everyday man" for the WORSE!  Yet, we continue to listen to their pablum on a daily basis!

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