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Rob Spiegel
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Re: Just a bunch of good ole boys
Rob Spiegel   7/23/2013 3:33:46 PM
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Ann, you're right about the auto software being unavailable to the car owner. The electronic tools to read the car's temperature, so to speak, are beyond the reach of the vehicle owner in both expense and complexity.

Ann R. Thryft
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Ann R. Thryft   7/23/2013 3:25:30 PM
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You got it, Rob. Many others have complained on these boards about the car fixing issue. That was where I first became aware of the problem of not being able to fix a consumer machine because of electronics. But it's really because of the embedded nature of the electronics software, very different from the typical PC software situation, where you can at least upgrade your own software, including the OS and utilities.

Rob Spiegel
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Rob Spiegel   7/23/2013 2:27:43 PM
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I certainly understand. You used to be able to fix a car in your backyard. That changed with the ramp-up of electronics under the hood.

Ann R. Thryft
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Ann R. Thryft   7/23/2013 1:08:18 PM
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The only computer I ever found intuitive as a user was the pre-OSX Mac. From the very beginning, that was true: "computers for the rest of us" and "intuitively obvious." I even fixed the hardware several times, including warranty-breaking memory upgrades. That machine and its software never presumed to think for me--it just did what I needed so I could do my job. Too bad most people never had that experience.

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Ann R. Thryft   7/23/2013 12:46:19 PM
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I probably wouldn't dislike them, true, Rob. But I still mistrust them. Most mechanical things I own can be fixed by a person with the knowledge & the right tools. But I can't fix a chip or its embedded software, which makes me mistrust electronics in principle, as a user.

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Constitution_man   7/23/2013 10:39:17 AM
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Whirlpool [i.e. "cesspool"] Corporation has lost my business inasmuch as I can possibly avoid them.  Their dishwasher racks are JUNK, and a replacement set costs about 2/3 of a new machine... the dealer margin on a set of racks is a whopping 30 bucks so even the dealer cannot help much.  The phone bank @ Cesspool corp is heavily armed with script, most of which is aimed at blaming the consumer for not buying their expensive extended warranty.  I have had very good service, even after warranty, on Frigidaire [electrolux].

 As for the author's use of a 17 caliber bore brush... I own a 17m2 rifle, which fires a .17 from a 22 rimfire casing.  Excellent rifle, fitted with a 6 x 32 Bug Buster.  I just may use it to shoot a Whirlpool logo next time I'm at the range.  Given the horrible inconsistencies of zinc plating worldwide, even domestically, it baffles me that a moving component subject to friction in such a wet and warm environment couldn't be made from stainless steel... OH, silly me... SS is only for pretentious styled front panels, NOT for anything functional.

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GTOlover   7/23/2013 10:18:15 AM
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oldjimh,

I like the knobs as well, but when I bought my wife a new washing machine with the touch screen, she loved it! I perferred to keep the old one and fix it, but the cost to replace the main pump made my wife look for a new machine. She found one and alas, I had to relent.

Oh well, at least the dryer is still old school (single knob and start button) and I refuse to change this out (thankfully it is white and will still match the wash machine).

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OLD_CURMUDGEON   7/23/2013 9:10:13 AM
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oldjimh:  MY advice to you is NOT to waste the energy of all those neat little electrons sending this blog to MAYTAG.  They're part of WHIRLPOOL CORP. now, and there isn't anyone there that gives a rat's pitootie what the customer thinks of their products.  When you've achieved darn near 100% monopoly status, you can dismiss the rantings of the consumer......  Too bad they don't sell the BENDIX washer/wringer appliance anymore...... probably would outlast a whole bunch of us!!!

 

oldjimh
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Re: Just a bunch of good ole boys
oldjimh   7/23/2013 7:20:28 AM
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I'm with you on that  one, Ms  Ann.  What was 'intuitive' to the programmer is usually counter-intuitive to me.   I am mistrustful of machines that presume to think for humans.

Knobs and switches won't argue with you about what it is they're supposed to do..

jim hardy

Rob Spiegel
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Re: Just a bunch of good ole boys
Rob Spiegel   7/22/2013 8:54:30 PM
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That's funny Ann. If the control panels on appliances worked right, you might have a different view.

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