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The Mill Is Peppered With Problems

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Nugent_56
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Quality looses
Nugent_56   3/7/2013 9:26:50 AM
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It's always a shame when quality is pushed way down the priority list over profit.  I spent some time in Germany working at an engineering firm. I was really taken back by their focus on quality above everything else. It's no wonder BMWs and Mercedes are premium priced cars. They build their houses the same way.  But I suppose in a country (USA) where everyone demands a premium-living lifestyle, a bit of greed must come into the equation in order to finance that lifestyle and unfortunately, quality must take the back seat.

Bob985
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Re: Quality looses
Bob985   3/7/2013 9:54:42 AM
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If we value low price over quality, often we end up spending more in the long run. In addition, a grinder on the top of the container may create less mess, but the reason for a grinder in the first place is to have _freshly_ ground pepper. Putting the grinder on the top means that partially ground peppercorns work their way to the bottom and loose their pungency as they sit inside the grinder over time. This results in lower quality ground pepper. That's why I personally prefer the grinder to be on the bottom. I'm willing to put up with the mess to optimize the taste and smell of the pepper.

dbell5
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Re: Quality looses
dbell5   3/7/2013 7:48:12 PM
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I love my BMW 528i ... but:

WAY too much plastic, especially in heavy or continuous use locations.

All (two - really? 2?!?!) drink holders are broken, necessitating replacing the entire section of the console panel. I won't bother, as they are essentially worthless anyway. Any containr with a C.G. above 3" simply falls off the tray.

 

Worse, we've gone through three interior door handles. They *look* like chrome plated metal, but are flimsy plastic, guaranteed to break when an unfamiliar rider pulls hard on a locked handle, expecting it to unlock and open the door.

 

 

William K.
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The peppermill and the problem with plastics.
William K.   3/7/2013 10:32:15 PM
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There are a few plastics that perform better than metal in strength and wear properties, but unfortunately thos plastics often cost more than metal. parts. So the challenge is to design for performance and durability rather than minimum price. THE TRICK is to find a way to convince the consumers that the higher priced (whatever) is the item that they want.

Ken E.
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Plastic? Really?
Ken E.   3/8/2013 7:38:35 AM
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Author, are you sure the grinding surfaces were plastic, and not ceramic? (The ones I have are a white ceramic.)  I doubt if even the single use grinders that come with peppercorns in them are plastic, but I'm going to look next chance I get.  If they can make a plastic up to this task, I am truly impressed.

I like the idea of the ratcheting action, a pity they didn't get that right.  And I love fresh ground pepper.  I purchased a number of them over the years before I found the great grinders I now own.

warren@fourward.com
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Re: Quality looses
warren@fourward.com   3/8/2013 10:54:05 AM
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Truer words were never spoken, " I did what any engineer with four kids would do -- I set them aside for some time when I could figure out what was going on."

But as engineers we don't mind spending thousands of dollars in engineering time on products that cost a few dollars.  We are driven to it.  It is in our nature to get to the bottom of things.  Who cares what it costs!

And the way many things are are built, we have gobs of things to work on.  This peppermill is just the tip of the iceberg.  In these Design News articles we have repaired washing machines, rescue robots, toilets, and Retro Encabulators. 

Don't you just love being an engineer?

loadster
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Re: Plastic? Really?
loadster   3/8/2013 1:48:40 PM
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Here is another case where the user drives the mechanism. Since you have kids you cannot have nice things or things that must be used with care and kindness. So for the kids, I'd recommend the disposable grinding mill that comes with McCormick pepper and salt spicejars. And for you, find the Trudeau Graviti grinder. As an engineer you'll appreciate the clever concept of grinder on top and it operates by simply flipping the unit upside down. Though filling it takes some forethought. Only shortfall is it doesn't have built-in illumination as many other battery driven grinders do.

And consider your time in this world. Some things are simply not worthy of your time and effort to disassemble and rehabilitate. Like plastic grinders.

Cadman-LT
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Re: Quality looses
Cadman-LT   3/9/2013 10:26:20 AM
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I agree, I loved that statement. I don't have kids, but I do that a lot. problem arises, I let it go for awhile and think about it. Sometimes the solution comes to me when I'm sleeping!! lol

Cadman-LT
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Re: Plastic? Really?
Cadman-LT   3/9/2013 10:30:30 AM
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I seriously doubt an engineer would mistake ceramic for plastic!

Cadman-LT
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Re: Quality looses
Cadman-LT   3/9/2013 10:36:16 AM
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On that note. I've sat on problems for weeks sometimes. The answer always seems to have a way of finding me. I don't know about the rest of you, but once I have a problem to remedy....I am constantly thinking of solutions. Do they call that a restless mind? 

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