While I was working on my MSME at Purdue, my old Chevy that got 10 miles per gallon started falling apart.
Three consecutive weekends it left me stranded, including the weekend I was driving to see my then girlfriend to ask her to marry me. Gas had tripled in price in a few months, and soon after, my new wife and I went out and bought a brand new Datsun 1200.
It was a cute little two door, bright orange, with a stick shift. It used about a third of the gas the Chevy did. My brother had owned a Datsun 510 that performed quite well. I wanted to get one of those, but they had discontinued them by the time I was looking. (Yes, fellow engineers, I should have found a used 510.)
After owning the 1200 for about eight months, one day it wouldn't start. I unsuccessfully used my engineering prowess before having it towed to the dealer. In about two days, they "fixed it" under warranty. They provided me no paperwork, just the comment that "it was a bad wire under the dash."
One night after work, my wife and I were driving to a local ski area to take night skiing lessons. We were driving up a mountain road -- lots of snow and ice. I drove over a bump and the car died. We were in the middle of nowhere, miles from any human, and my little orange "bad wire under the dash" car was dead.
I took a quick peek under the dash and not a single wire was tagged "bad." The ignition switch was on the dash in a perfect location to pound on it with my fist. I put the key back in after a few ignition switch pounds, cranked it, and the car fired right up. It took us skiing, and got us home in the cold blizzard. I carefully avoided bumps after that.
Two days later, while my wife was driving the car alone, she drove over a railroad track and the car died mid-track. She managed to cross the track with the car's momentum. She looked under the dash, and saw this Molex-type connector just dangling suspiciously behind the ignition switch. She looked at it, and saw how it could fit behind the switch. She plugged it in. It seated it well and the car started.
I figured that one really strange failure with a car would meet my quota, but the Datsun 1200 wasn't one of your only-one-strange-failure type of cars. About a year later, I slowed down for a stop light and the car died. I started it up, and the next time I came toward an intersection and slowed down, it died again. It died every time it slowed down.
After a few incorrect diagnoses and repairs, the fourth mechanic diagnosed a defective solenoid. When I picked up the car, the mechanic noted that the 1200 would need brakes and a clutch in the next few thousand miles. The rear side windows hinged open, and the hinges and brackets were breaking on both of the rear side windows. I glued everything I could back together to give the appearance of functionality. Several other controls, such as the front window knobs and control knobs on the dash, unceremoniously snapped off. By this time, it had all of 32,000 miles on it.
Then one day, the key jammed in the ignition lock. I called a locksmith. After about 40 minutes into the repair, the locksmith said he needed to rebuild the ignition lock. About an hour-and-a-half later, the ignition lock was back together. After that incident, I figured my life was too short to own this car. We traded it in for a Chevy Chevette.
This entry was submitted by Jeffrey Antman and edited by Rob Spiegel.
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Jeffrey, I feel your pain. I had a used Datsun 510 for a short time. A friend of mine had a 240Z. They were fun cars and got better gas mileage than the 1970 Olds Delta 88 my father wanted to give me ("Just give me $25."). On the other hand I had different problems than you did, but there we lots of problems. They were also pretty fragile.
What really struck me was an article I saw a short while back in a newspaper talking about the return of the Datsun brand. Nissan owns Datsun. You will notice that no Datsuns are sold anymore. In this newspaper article they claim that Nissan dropped the Datsun brand to unify their brand image. That is bunk! They did it becuause of the quality problems the cars had, including a very bad problem with rust. The Z car had a special problem with rust on the frame where the differentiall was attached.
It seems that they are bringing back the Datsun brand for inexpensive cars to be sold in developing country markets. That is appropriate. I think they would have touble with it here.
The "Datsun" brand name has been gone off US markets for 25 years or so, right-? I remember when the "Z" cars (everyone's secret yearning) were the Datsun 240Z, the 280Z, and then suddenly the "Nissan" 300Z. My mind puts that roughly about 1985. But it's all a blurrrrr,,,,,
You're right about the Datsun brand name, naperlou. There was good reason for putting that behind them. It's amazing how much vehicle reliability has improved in the last 30 years -- not only at Nissan, but for all automakers. Tales like these are a lot less frequent these days.
naperlou, Thanks for your understanding of the Datsun Pain. If I were Nissan, I wouldn't use the Datsun name for anything, even low cost entry markets, for maybe another 50 years. The people who decided to do that never owned one like either of us did.
Charles, spot on observation that cars have gotten so much better over the last 30 years. We have three cars in our family now, and none of them hardly ever need anything but oil changes and tires. We have a total of 19 "car-years" of ownership between the three cars and have not been stranded or had major expensive failures in any of them.
It is all a blur, Jim - but I do remember the cutest guy driving a 280Z and we all thought he was so cool (Today my teenagers would say he and his car were swag). Late 70s, early 80s I think.
These are the very reasons that my dad made sure my first car was American made. Not that there weren't problems at the time, but they weren't anything like this. Things have sure changed on both the US and import side. (Including the fact that the "imports" are made in the US).
I had a new Mustang in the mid-eighties, which wasn't the best time for American car manufacturers. The car began to run oddly, stumbling and sometimes surging. Several times the car was sent in for warranty service, and I became suspicious of the trouble shooting process since so many electronic components were being replaced, yet the problem continued. This was in the early years of under the hood electronics and mechanics were frequently replacing anything with a cable harness in the hopes of finding the problem.
After bringing the car home with a drive that still had the same symptom I opened the hood to see what was being replaced and why. To my horror I found that a cable harness had been burned, but that the fire was not recent. The wire to the choke heater had burned and melted several wires together along with some plastic vacuum lines that were in the same bundle. The entire cable harness, a little more than 2 feet in length, was now a melted chunk of plastic. Despite that the vehicle was only a month old I performed the repairs myself because I was afraid that the mechanics would just twist new wires together and roll it all up with some electrical tape.
Not too surprisingly, now that the engine management system could receive the correct signals and control combustion again, the car began to run properly without any new components.
I spent the late 70s and 80s helping my father do freelance automotive work (in addition to his day job), and got a worm's-eye view of the utterly shameful products Detroit was putting out during that period (and I say that as a Detroit native). And the UAW and Big Three wonder why there's an entire generation out there that still equates "imports" with "quality." I remember my father buying his first-ever import because, after a year of shopping the dealerships, he couldn't find any American-made car in his price range that he was willing to trust. And this was a man who'd spent his life doing all his own car maintenance!
My first car was a 1984 Ford LTD station wagon (bought from my mother for $1). It was gently used and got good maintenance, but by 120,000 miles the engine was a complete writeoff. My father and I ended up spending months rebuilding it from the block up, but after that the body started falling apart. And don't even get me started on the fuel pump idiocy....
Of course, my sister (whose husband is a Ford employee) just last year had to get rid of their Ford Expedition well before it hit the 100,000 mile mark because it was a complete lemon (including blowing a spark plug right out of the head while they were towing their camper), and no amount of repairs ever got rid of all the problems. OTOH, we both now drive crew-cab F150s which (knock on wood) seem to be holding up nicely. But Ford always did seem to pay extra attention to protecting the F150 brand.
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