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The Maytag Repairman Is Plenty Busy Now

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apresher
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Extended Warranties
apresher   1/28/2013 4:58:48 PM
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Ann, I generally don't buy extended warranties but hit the jackpot with a laptop a few years ago ($1300 gift card when they couldn't fix my Toshiba laptop due to parts obsolesence after three years of owning it) and $1,000 toward a new Sears treadmill for same reason (also more than five years old) for same reason.  But I think it was just luck because generally I don't go for them either.

Ann R. Thryft
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Maytag's bringing back the extended warranty
Ann R. Thryft   1/28/2013 4:23:24 PM
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I never buy the extended warranties--they're always a waste of money. Looks like Maytag is making them necessary again.



Tom-R
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Re: Maytag Repairman
Tom-R   1/28/2013 3:29:09 PM
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I think most appliances are becoming disposable items now. The cost of any repair, if it requires outside labor, is usually more than a new unit. Yes, it may be a 39 cent part, and a Sherlock doing it themselves can reap those savings. But the majority of customers need to go the repairman route. Repairmen in turn have had to adopt plug and play repair methods that replace entire components, in an effort to cost effective. I have noticed more and more people replacing items simply because they want a newer version. Not because it failed. So if customers are looking for short lifespans on style or features, and prefer costs lower than repairs, this trend only makes sense.

GTOlover
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Re: Maytag Appliances
GTOlover   1/28/2013 1:27:10 PM
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Again, being a supplier to Whirlpool, some of the parts are made in Mexico and Asia and then assembled in the US. Careful how you believe "American" made. I should clarify that all the engineering support and manufacturing support continues to come from the US. So in that regard, we try to make sure that the parts made are of the highest quality as designed.

jcbond_mi
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Maytag Appliances
jcbond_mi   1/28/2013 11:11:17 AM
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While I was in college (1991-1995), I worked in appliances sales part time for a year.  We carried Whirlpool and Maytag, who were fierce rivals at the time.  Maytage was known for heavy duty construction - and a higher price tag.  What was interesting was that I had a talk with a Whirlpool rep about this.  She acknowledged the heavy duty construction, then said check the results of long-term testing in Consumer Reports.  And she was right - fewer problems over time with the Whirlpool products.  But both were good products.

Maytag went through financial difficulties and was eventually bought by Whirlpool, if I recall correctly.  And they don't appear to manufacture their own products anymore.  I'd guess Whirlpool would still be a good brand to buy, and they still manufacture in the US - although they probably outsource low-end products.

One company I find particularly disappointing is GE.  We moved into a home with all GE stainless steel appliances.  They've all had bizarre failures after moderate usage (IMO).  A freezer that just stops freezing every so often which leads to an impressive waterfall from the auto ice-maker.  A range top microwave that no longer works.  A dishwasher that washes much more poorly than our old one...

Nancy Golden
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Re: Maytag Repairman
Nancy Golden   1/28/2013 10:44:47 AM
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Unfortunately I think the concept of "service friendly" is sitting on the same dusty shelf as "quality," and not just at Maytag. Lower cost imports have forced many companies to abandon what were core mission statements that they were founded on, in order to survive the competition where consumers are more interested in lower prices than in quality and repair accessibility. 

bob from maine
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Re: Maytag Repairman
bob from maine   1/28/2013 10:42:56 AM
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Who is at fault, really? When you shop for a washer or dryer are you looking for an "old clunky" machine with no sound insulation? You'll probably choose the brand new gee-whiz one touch membrane keypad, guaranteed wrinkle-free shirt drying, energy reduced, with many db of sound insulation. If you look closely, you will likely find that the innards are very similar, after all there are only 2 or 3 dryer manufacturers and everyone buys and rebrands from those sources and those manufacturers offer four or five sets of options which you can mix and match to meet your specific price goals. None of those options include a 25 year life expectancy with guaranteed parts availability. The commercial dryers you see in the laundromats are designed to run more or less continuously for their ten year life expectancy with minimal maintenance but they cost 3 or 4 thousand dollars each. When I was in the market for a new dryer I asked my local repairman which brand he recommended. His answer: Rebuild your 42 year old dryer, new timer, new bearings, new belt and idler pulley, put bearings in the motor and it'll last another 25 years. Sage advice I'd say.

Ken E.
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I too am my own Maytag Repairman.
Ken E.   1/28/2013 10:36:19 AM
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I got a Maytag washer dryer as part of my wifes 'dowry', over thirty years ago.  I continue to make occasional minor repairs (belts, ignitors, lint filters, etc.) but absolutely major-trouble free.  You guys are making me think I should never consider replacing them.

DB_Wilson
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Re: Maytag Repairman
DB_Wilson   1/28/2013 9:55:52 AM
I worked on the old Maytag units when I was in high school.  I suspect that the profitability pressures got the designers to go to less expensive construction.  I expect the dryer construction of the bearing in back that supported the drum and it's contents was more expensive than having the front of the drum supported on the felt pads.  Labor and damage in production for the old heating element was likely greater than for the current heating element design.

The old Maytag  washers were service friendly.  Most problems that resulted in a tub full of water could be repaired from the front of the washer.  Had a belt break?  One could replace belts with a #2 phillips screwdriver, a 4x4 block of wool and a pry bar.  The screwsdriver was to remove two screws to open the front of the washer and the block and bar was to liftthe front a couple of inches to be able to reach under the machine to install new belts.  The motor and water pump were accessed in the same manner.  I repaired a water pump that had ingested a sock by removeing the front, removing the pump belt, clampingthe tub to pump hose to stop water from draining, removing hose from the pump, and pulling the sock out of the pump with needle nose pliers.  When reassembled, the machine worked fine for several more years.  I doubt any current machine is so service friendly. 

GTOlover
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Re: Maytag Repairman
GTOlover   1/28/2013 9:54:53 AM
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Having worked as a plastic supplier to the appliance industry, I can tell you that from about 1985 to 1995 that most of the appliances were moving rapidly to incorporate plastic into just about everything, including the main pumps, transmissions, and enclosures. The quality was still OK as these parts were manufactured in the USA. However, in the 90's and beyond we started to move the manufacturing to Mexico and Asia. Then I had to deal with many root cause analysis for field failures.It was a combination of manufacturing expertise (lack of knowledge) and continued path of designing for least cost.

As many point out, look for the older models and learn to fix these appliances on your own. I had to repair my Wirlpool washer recently, it cost me about $75 for a new control board. When my wife and I initially purchased this model she wanted the fancy touchscreen and bubble buttons. This is why the control board is expensive. Shortly after this, the motor starting making noise. Pricing a new motor at over $250 prompted me to simply buy a new unit. It pained me, but the economics eventually force you to succumb to the new product. This time I opted for a basic unit with knobs and real buttons. I still wonder if I should have pulled the motor and had it rebuilt for about half the cost of new?

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