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The Dump Trailer Won't Dump

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sensor pro
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The dump
sensor pro   9/20/2011 11:12:26 AM
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Well, you just experienced the normal process of fixing a bad design to fit your application. However you may never be able to bring it to life as a viable product because some clerk feels that longer base is too dangerous or some other stupid reason.

There are thousands of modifications to products that never see the light of day due to poor regulations.

Jack Rupert, PE
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Re: The dump
Jack Rupert, PE   9/20/2011 3:11:50 PM
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Yes, sensor pro, it does sound like some overly-aggressive safety factor.

Tim
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Dump carts
Tim   9/20/2011 9:14:39 PM
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I can just hear the executive conversation when reviewing the original dump cart designs.  They probably realized that there was potential for the dump cart to tilt far enough to possibly contact the ground and create a pinch point.  The simple solution is to drop the functionality of the dump portion of the trailer and just have trailer but keep the dump trailer price tag.

Ivan Kirkpatrick
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Regulation Review
Ivan Kirkpatrick   9/21/2011 12:04:56 AM
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Sometimes engineers can make some suggestions and review the regulations to improve them.  It is certainly helpful to have regulations to improve safety but they should not impede functionality or deny innovations.  All regulations should have specific rules regarding amendments and a review process.  Effective regulations that promote safetya nd adherence to standards benefit everyone.

On the other hand, as some of the political discussions show, regulations can have a very debilitating influence on the industries being regulated to the point of strangulation.

sensor pro
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Re: Regulation Review
sensor pro   9/21/2011 8:08:19 AM
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Well said !!!  It is important to have happy medium .

Thank for a short and pointed statement.

jhoyt
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Regulations
jhoyt   9/21/2011 9:22:09 AM
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I find it very interesting that everyone on the design news site has jumped on the speculation that the dump trailer design was crippled by tight regulations.  If I was going to speculate why a product went to market with less then perfect performance the first thing that I would think of is that is is cheaper to produce.  I have seen a lot more incidents of designs being watered down to lower cost then any other reason.

fire-iron.biz
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Re: Regulations
fire-iron.biz   9/21/2011 7:11:21 PM
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Common sense eliminates the need for a lot of wasteful and restricting regulations. 

Greg Stirling
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The Dump Trailer Won't Dump
Greg Stirling   9/22/2011 3:13:30 PM
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Perhaps it is a design error.  Dump trailors need to tilt at least 45-50 degrees.

There seems to be some element of incompetence in the design world today.  Management hires the mechanical engineering graduate with the best grades and at a bargain price.  But, can he change the tire on his car? 

Companies would rather have an army of inexperienced engineers than a few competent engineers that know what they are doing.  And the low productivity and chaos that comes with it...

I have 'non-kink' garden hose that kinks more than regular hose - did someone think to test this product at different water pressures and temperatures?  I bought a special bottle designed to hold water and attach to my bike - its sole purpose - to hold liquid. 

It leaks...

JimEb
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Re: The dump
JimEb   9/23/2011 4:20:58 PM
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So who here hasn't at some point modified, removed guards and otherwise tweaked some sort of safety or environmental feature on a product.  Anyone?

btlbcc
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Maybe some side-stability safety concern?
btlbcc   9/23/2011 7:13:42 PM
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I wonder whether the designers of these things might have been concerned (there might sell be safety regulations or guidelines about center of gravity, etc.) with the possibility of the trailer tipping over sideways if it were raised too high?

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