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Slideshow: Spotlight on Plug-In Vehicles

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RichardBradleySmith
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The photo of the Audi A3 e-tron plug-in hybrid is funny.
RichardBradleySmith   4/17/2013 11:46:31 AM
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Think about it. It looks like your dad filling the car up with gas. Anyone who wants this wants robots to change the battery in 30 seconds. It looks like Audi has their head up their... oh, never mind.

For my part I have been waiting for this as I live where we have sun, it is the shade that is the problem. Or not. We cover our parking lots with solar panels.

A special thanks to Design News for sending me a T-Shirt. I found it not so good to wear to a Netflix event as people thought I was "media".

 

Rob Spiegel
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Re: Electric inside and out
Rob Spiegel   4/17/2013 12:07:00 PM
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I agree, Elizabeth, that the variety of EVs is good news for the sector. Ultimately, though, I think costs will have to come down before EVs can gain significant market share. Right now they're a specialty market. Lower gas costs -- likely to come as energy supplies grow through expanded exploration and fracking -- may put a damper on EV sales. Low energy costs will make it that much harder for EVs to pay for themselves in gas savings.

tekochip
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Overnight Charging
tekochip   4/17/2013 12:34:38 PM
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Overnight charging would fit the needs of most consumers, so adopting an EV would be a consumer preference similar to buying an SUV, pick-up or a sub-compact. The real issue is the cost, because nobody would want a sub-compact that cost more that a luxury SUV.

Gorski
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Gorski   4/17/2013 3:25:15 PM
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An interesting display of EVs by many manufacturers. I like the iE that recharges in 20 minutes. If it could go a reasonable distance between charges I could see it in an urban environment, like taxi cabs.

Gorski

Rob Spiegel
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Rob Spiegel   4/17/2013 5:08:52 PM
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Good points, Chuck. With the sliding cost of oil, the EVs have their work cut out for them. New oil deposits, new oil retrieval technologies -- these will the cost per barrell down, making it that much harder for the EV to offset its cost in fuel cost savings. Add to that, a coming wave of high efficient traditional engines. Ultimately, I believe there will be a strong market for EVs. We may have to wait until battery technology supports an EV that can go long distances. EV prices will also be a factor.

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Re: Overnight Charging
imagineer1000   4/17/2013 5:30:45 PM
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Totally agree.  I want a pure electric.  Car manufacturers seem intent on selling electrics as an expensive inconvenient option relative to ICE.  My spin would be to relate it to cell phones.  Which would you rather have - your current cell phone that you plug into a charger in the safety of your home at night when you sleep, or a cell phone that will last a week on a charge (tank), but can only be recharged by a trip to the Apple/Microshaft store where a bunch of sketchy characters hang out nearby and you are required to breath chemicals of dubious health "benefits"? 

Why are we making "electrics" so complicated by adding an ICE for additional range?  My car doesn't need to fulfill 100% of my driving needs (even any one ICE vehicle can't) .  All I want is a basic car that has an honest 60-70 mi. range (meaning A/C and headlights on if appropriate, with modest hills and heavy accelerator foot).  Since I exceed 50mi/day only once  a week on average (that's almost two hours of driving around here), and 100 miles only a few times a year that would cover 90% of my mileage (I drive roughly 15,000mi/year), and almost 97% of my total trips in a year. 

NadineJ
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NadineJ   4/17/2013 5:36:41 PM
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It's good to see so many choices in one slide show but I don't see variety.  For those, like me, who don't like hatchbacks, station wagons or, coupes that look like hatchbacks, there's very little.

It's no wonder that the Tesla Model S is outselling some luxury car models in the first quarter of 2013.  It's the only decent looking EV on the market.

Charles Murray
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Charles Murray   4/17/2013 5:55:22 PM
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Right, tekochip, the issue still comes back to cost, which comes back to the battery. The costs of the entire pack (according to virtually every expert who isn't selling something) are still above $700/kWh.

Charles Murray
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Charles Murray   4/17/2013 6:03:57 PM
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I agree, Rob. If the price of oil rose sharply, it would change the economic picture. But right now, automakers are still struggling to find buyers for pure electrics beyond the core of early adopters. Electrics make good cars for buyers who already have a reliable, longer-range vehicle. But people with limited budgets often can't afford a pure electric as a second car. In the long run, plug-in hybrids are a better bet. When the cost of Volt-type cars comes down another $10K, they'll be really popular.  

Charles Murray
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Charles Murray   4/17/2013 6:39:01 PM
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I imagine you're right about taxi use, Gorski. But the taxi company ould have to have 400V three-phase current in order to recharg in 20 minutes, which isn't available everywhere.

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