I realize this thread is dead but I thought I'd throw you a note.
Volt sales for October-2,022 down 32% from 2012. The industry was up 10% overall.
Little early to call a trend but I wonder if the August sales were a bubble with the lower price and reality is that demand is flagging.
I suspect that if the "pause" in global warming continues (17 years and counting) we will see EV's and wind/solar enthusiasm retreat a great deal. Double that if the planet enters a cooling cycle (solar & oceanic cycles indicate that this is a possibility).
We will see.
Take care my friend. Have a great, and thankful, Thanksgiving.
It's hard to say how the Volt is doing these days, Dennis. It set a record of 3,351 in August, then dropped sharply to 1,766 in September. Year-to-date sales are 17,760. Sounds to me like Chevy's looking at about 25,000 this year.
I don't know about the ELR project, Bunter, but a lot of automotive engineers are now talking about the optimistic times of 2008 and 2009, when electric car projects were viewed in a very different light. I suspect many of those projects would be curtailed or even dropped if automakers could do it over again.
One of my first thoughts is "would this project get the go ahead today?"
Keep in mind, like any new car, the go-ahead was several years ago.
IIRC, last month saw lower year-over-year sales for the Volt inspite of the $5k lower price. I have posted before that I suspect that the EV market is already saturating the demand for the current offerings price/range/capability combinations.
With Volt interest possibly flagging, I think the ELR will probably fail hard.
Yes, the Chevy Volt will have better fuel efficiency numbers, but Cadillac has acknowledged that it traded fuel efficiency for power in the ELR. I believe the Volt only has 149 HP. And the ELR offers 295 lb-ft of torque, compared to 273 for the Volt. Cadillac's belief is that their buyers aren't as interested in fuel efficiency, and I think that's a pretty fair bet.
Valid points, GTOlover. They've carried over the powertrain, which saves them some money. But as for the rest of it...we're seeing here what often happens in the luxury end of the market. In the rest of the vehicle (not the powertrain) Cadillac is bearing costs that aren't shared with the other divisions of GM. This is why many consumers like to wait for technology to trickle down -- trickledown means less cost.
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