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2/25/2014

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Electric car sales haven't yet reached the big numbers that were initially expected. GM sold 23,094 Chevy Volt plug-in hybrids in 2013, down slightly from 23,461 in 2012.   (Source: Chevrolet)
Electric car sales haven’t yet reached the big numbers that were initially expected. GM sold 23,094 Chevy Volt plug-in hybrids in 2013, down slightly from 23,461 in 2012.
(Source: Chevrolet)

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a.saji
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Re: Prius, Insight
a.saji   8/28/2014 6:04:44 AM
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@A2: What direct impacts ? Im a bit confused here on this ? What are you referring to ? 

a2
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Re: Prius, Insight
a2   8/28/2014 1:24:43 AM
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Very true mate. Its vital to continue the streak because it has direct impacts. 

fdos
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Re: Prius, Insight
fdos   8/27/2014 11:51:33 PM
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@NadineJ: Well it should remain the same in the longer run as well. Most of the countries start strongly but then ignore it and that is where things start to fall back

NadineJ
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Re: Prius, Insight
NadineJ   8/27/2014 10:52:09 PM
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To paraphrase an old saying...As California goes, so does the nation.

Standards are thankfully strict here.  It's a great incubator for new technology.

PFStaats
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PFStaats   4/26/2014 9:15:04 AM
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Wade Newton said, "You can mandate supply, but you cannot mandate demand."  Apparently he has not been paying attention.  This ship sailed with the Affordable Care Act. If we can be forced to purchase insurance policies with coverage that we don't want or need, then what prevents the government from doing that with cars?

Bunter
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Re: Prius, Insight
Bunter   3/5/2014 7:31:03 AM
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Good thoughts Charles.

It does seem that the idea that customers might like an affordable, practical family car with the mileage of a motorcycle was enough to move on.

Chuckle. 

Dennis

Charles Murray
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Prius, Insight
Charles Murray   3/4/2014 5:59:43 PM
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I'm not terribly conversant with the history of CARB and its relationship to the Toyota Prius and Honda Insight, but I know that both of those cars started in Japan, and then were brought over to the U.S. At the time, I don't believe CARB had a program for partial ZEVs (PZEVs), only for pure electric cars, which means that neither of those vehicles would have qualified for credit. To be sure, I called Honda, and spokesman Chris Martin told us that the Insight was not a product of California legislation. "We marketed it nationwide," he said. "If it was simply a means to achieve a credit, we more than likely would have marketed it only in California."

patb2009
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Re: fuel economy standards are the way to go
patb2009   2/28/2014 11:34:47 PM
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Lou

 

sometimes regs are technology forcing.

 

And what you deride as the "Failed California Initiative of the 1990s"

produced the Toyota Prius and Honda Insight.  

 

Toyota hopped on that bronco and now they sell over a million Hybrid

synergy drive vehicles per year, and it's their top seller.

 

California is now trying to force that again onto all manufacturers.

 

if they succeed the the world will be better

patb2009
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Re: fuel economy standards are the way to go
patb2009   2/28/2014 11:26:20 PM
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I think Hydrogen fuel cells will be a dead end,  and a poor investment.

 

Battery Tech, Battery Performance, Battery charge rates, Battery Discharge rates,

Battery Energy Density, Battery Cost are all racing forward,

Tesla has demonstrated a nationwide 100 KW charger network and is demoing

250 KW chargers and battery swap systems.  

 

 

Charles Murray
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Re: Just a grammar nit, Mr. Murray
Charles Murray   2/28/2014 6:49:06 PM
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Thank you, CharlesM. You are correct.

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