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Slideshow: 2014 Alternative Fuel Vehicles

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Cabe Atwell
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Re: Styling vs. Drive method
Cabe Atwell   9/10/2014 7:09:55 PM
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I think EVs are practical for use in a city but are near worthless for long distances and off-roading at this point. It's not to say that they will evolve over time to accomplish those feats.

JimT@Future-Product-Innovations
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JimT@Future-Product-Innovations   8/20/2014 4:01:03 PM
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You made me go back and look at Google Images.  I was not surprised to see the 1971 Caprice with exactly what you described, but was much more surprised when I saw the resurgence of the effect on the 1991 model.  Chevy brought it back!  Why!?

Charles Murray
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Charles Murray   8/1/2014 4:59:43 PM
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I, too, have wondered why future vehicles are always shown with those rear-wheel covers, JimT. I see no apparent reason for it. Reminds me of the old Chevy Caprice sedans, which were often criticized for being ugly.

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Re: Ways to go
Pubudu   7/24/2014 1:25:00 PM
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Charles It's a great show

But there are globally unpublished solutions also, unfortunately video is not in English language. Still it's worth going through.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Water_Fueled_Car_-_Sri_Lanka

JimT@Future-Product-Innovations
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Styling vs. Drive method
JimT@Future-Product-Innovations   7/18/2014 6:26:46 PM
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I am always interested in the paradigm between the actual drive system, and the external style of the body.  Of course the two things do not necessarily have any interrelation, although smart design would attempt to integrate external styling features and lines to somehow augment the basic functional drive system.  For example, why are future concept cars always covering the rear wheels?

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Re: Ways to go
Cadman-LT   7/12/2014 1:56:55 AM
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I can see it now, my nephew picks me up in his hover car when I'm 80. lol I'm just joking. Who knows.

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Re: Ways to go
Cadman-LT   7/12/2014 1:52:12 AM
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That being said though, this isn't really for us. It's for our grandkids....the future. It needs to be done and I am glad it is.

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Re: Ways to go
Cadman-LT   7/12/2014 1:49:42 AM
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Right on Charles, not only can you not afford them, but why would you want them at this piont anyway. I could count the ways why not, but I won't. I think they speak for them selves.

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Charles Murray   7/11/2014 7:56:18 PM
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I'm with you on that, Cadman-LT. Can't afford any of these.

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CNG / Gas is out there...
Thinking_J   7/11/2014 7:33:37 PM
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Naperlou,William K,

There are numerous fleets in US running with CNG/Gas. Nearly all are conversions (I think City of Phoenix is doing this with some of their cars and trucks still) . In years past, I have been involved in some conversions. And we have to send sample cars to National testing sites (only two remaining in US) generally used by the auto manufacturers for EPA approval. Biggest issue with GNG is the size of the tanks vs range. GNG is not that great on storage volume vs energy stored. I don't think California's requirements in this area are significantly harder for us to meet.

Often overlooked, nice feature of CNG.. If you have natural gas at home, you can have a filling station at home.

I am also involved in Liquid Propane conversions (taxis in Las Vegas). Constantly having to come up with new conversion designs (Nevada law requires retirement of a chassis used for taxi service after five years - regardless of mileage). In this case, that means there are about 150 taxis in Vegas being retired (1/5th of one fleet from the one company) each year. This also means they are buying 150 new replacements (often from different car companies) requiring LP conversion - and EPA approval - each year.

Only because:

-They buy LP in large quantities ( 6+ milliion gallons/ year?)

- with large variations in quality (octane rating) aka "the cheap stuff"

- shipped in via railroad cars from Texas,

- to get it priced for about 1/2 the price of gas..

Does it make sense to reinvent/re-engineer a solution each year for 150 cars.

And it is not a simple engineering solution (variations in fuel quality vs EPA requirements vs driveability vs maintenance costs).. with cars ranging from Ford Crown Victorias (V8s), Ford Escapes and Toyota Scions (4 cylinder).

Just one of many projects (in numerous industries) I do each year.

 

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